Those skunks looks awesome would love some for my collection if you would like to barter with some
One thing I have come to realize is that almost all of us are chasing some sort of thought about what “good” weed is. What we consider “good” is relative to what we smoked when that thought was cemented in our mind.
Long story short we tend to chase what got us high as kids.
I gave a joint of homegrown ‘93 Mexican to a coworker in his mid 20’s who also grows. I asked him what he thought of it and he said that was some wacky shit. I thought he meant it was unique, but he meant he didn’t like it at all. I also gave some of the Mexican weed to a fifty year old black chick that I work with and she told me that kinda weed is the shit money can’t buy. She wanted more of it, and she said it took her back.
My grower buddy that didn’t like the Mexican gave me some of his homegrown and it was candy Indica bullshit available at any dispensary all over town.
Why grow what you could just buy? Well for his generation it has always been legal. His favorite strains are dispensary strains.
It not that he is a jackass with no taste, it’s just that his tastes are also defined by his era in time, and they are very different than mine.
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IMHO this thread can go all over the place with many twists and turns, I think its great! I honestly love reading all the responses, they’re all amazing!
With the right foundation you can build almost anything.
In the most general sense the vast majority of modern killer strains come from a healthy handful of landrace and landrace crosses, lots of which came to fame in the 80’s and 90’s.
I know I keep repeating myself but this topic completely fascinates me. I hope this post is read by someone and inspires them to grow out some old school strains. Strains like Skunk, NL, Haze, Mexican, Panamanian, Afghan, and a host of others. There are game changers in these cornerstone genetics that sometimes get lost with modern growers.
I’m not talking about preference, I’m not talking about the person that doesn’t like seafood or the person that loves a classic cheese pizza over a pineapple and ham pizza…thats preference. I’m talking about foundational genetics that allows for breeding on a blank canvas so that you can achieve preference. Like pizza, most would agree that you need the base ingredients to make the dough, you need the base type of tomatoes for the sauce, you need the quality of cheese, the herbs and spices…etc. All of which can be tweaked to any given desire, heck, it all started with cheese pizza and nowadays you can get any kind of pizza your mind can imagine. The thing that really gets me is that the base ingredients of “almost” everything on the market today can be traced back to a handful of strains/genetics.
I can’t thank the community enough for chiming in.
Cheers!
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I agree, most of my friends love the new school weed and buy seeds i would never pay a dime for. Im still quite young, early 30s and hazes/pure sativas got me hooked the first time i tried it. I love to do shit and run around and for me, being high without the couchlock draining over your head like a wet blanket is the effect im after… And I grew up on afghani hash. So maybe for some its that thing that bringa you back, but for some it might be an effect that makes you feel good. Its individual.
@GoatCanna Riot seeds got old NL right now, he talked about it in his podcast 
Maybe worth checking out!
Pz 
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I don’t want to put my foot in my mouth but I could be totally wrong. This is my take…(
Been outa the game awhile so to speak…) So a lot of the so called poly hybrids today and the candy bubble pop stuff that people talk about isnt really that far removed from the original landraces. I mean honestly a lot of the main stream strains I see are a couple maybe 3 crosses removed from the landraces. This isn’t obviously the entire case as there are a lot of heirlooms and lines that have been worked for generations. But again, alot of the stuff is basically just a couple crosses of keepers from landraces. Lol, a lot of the stuff might just be subcools jillybean relabelled…haha, bet me !
Back in the day we were making super poly hybrids…crossing the best of everything. We were working with lines 20-30 generations removed from the landraces but all this was for a specific purpose…not just to get the best weed imaginable 
…right? that’s what they told me…or I told them, haha ?!! I can’t remember the first time I smoked weed but damn the hash we had back then was killer…totally epic.
So my point is this… mainstream has a long way to go to catch up…lines need to be worked for generations…hope I’m not rambling, I still need a drink or few.
But honestly I love what people are doing with the hybrids. It’s great to see another generation with dedication and a love for the plant. It’s great that people experiment with crosses…long live the Kushes that set the standard this generation (whether new school or old) 
!
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Interesting take my friend and I see you point. Cookies are suppose to be a cross with Durban for example. A problem with poly hybrids are the lack of hybrid vigor. Many of the old school strains where made up of stable or semi stable cultivars which brought this feature to the surface. Ive smokes better Gorilla Glue RIL then the original and even though im not a indica fan boi. It was a big improvement of the original smoke. Sure, RIL has some added genetics, but the genetics added isnt better then the original cut of GG. Ive experienced the same thing in my own projects and I believe that when this cookie craze is over, hybrid vigor might have a shot to show its true glory.
Pz
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I’m still waiting on all the old school stuff to pop back up. I think that’s what the op may have been getting at…there’s alot of fantastic stuff out there that should see the light of day again. But in the meantime, people work their lines for generations – they aren’t going anywhere, the 2000’s is just another stop on the way. The internet, Kush, granddaddy purple, it all makes sense. Generation X , more like generation Kush.
Or is it, 
, generation Overgrow? 
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Blockhead Island …second most relaxing place on earth. (as in “block off” a line, or set of them)
When you say original GG, are you referring to the #4?
Thanks
Bagman
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I honestly haven’t had anything modern that touches the plants from ~30ish years ago. No candy/cookie/ice cream strain touches A5 or C5 haze. They don’t hold a candle to Triangle Kush.
It’s like people spent the last 20-30 years breeding solely for bag appeal instead of the high.
Edit: didn’t mean to reply to you directly LonelyOC
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Original catpiss aka the concert stopper 
if you have not heard of it you probably aren’t living lol it’s from the early 90s
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I share the desire to reinvent the wheel a bit. Many of the possibilities of growing different lines and geeking out on genetics- it just wasn’t possible in the way it is now unless you were in certain circles and willing to endure substantial risk.
To me the biggest opportunity zone for new horizons for weed is in the land of the home grower. No industry pressures, no need to impress, we can get away from the famous cuts and hype, and forward with our own projects.
The reality is that people want different things from this plant. We have to really get clear on what we want from this plant, even the specific type of experience and understand that this plant is probably only one component of that experience. If we want to be around a campfire giggling, we don’t just need 80’s genetics, we need to organize a camping trip with our old friends!!!
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It’s true. Nostalgia is one of the most powerful forces in the universe.
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If anyone has any recommendations on where to get some old school goodness that fucks you up I’m all ears lol. I miss smoking weed that makes driving a car difficult, or makes you unable to understand english lol.
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As I said before, riot seeds said in his podcast that he got real old NL stuff. Might me something for you? I know ill give it a try!
@BagmanCrappy yes, If you like the #4 the RIL line is a step up!
@HolyAngel Totaly agree with you, its too bad that they lost the tri kush cut, they are still not sure about the new one floating around. Dont forget about the old Kali mist aswell!
Pz
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Who lost the triangle kush cut?
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I’ve popped many beans and somehow always find myself going back to DJ Short as well as Dr. Atomic. I have a few other go to breeders but you can reliably obtain legit old school genetics from the 2 breeders I mentioned. The added bonus is that there strains have a healthy verity of different phone’s.
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Triangle is definitely not gone
100%
idk where you heard that
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Nspecta, notso and csi. They talk about it on riot seeds podcast. They lost it and then got it again and they are not sure If its the same cut. All I know
Pz
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Nspecta is CSI
the triangle isn’t gone
I’ll talk with notso about it
We each share a love for 80’s and 90’s pot
we’re homies but I don’t listen to podcasts so I always hear about shit second hand and have to go to him lol
But no triangle isn’t gone
That really only happens when things fall out of fashion, there is a triangle Floating around that isn’t triangle but the real assuredly exists still
I have friends who haven’t lost it for 15 years
maybe I’ll have to get it to him
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