Herm to me = male flowers before 5 weeks
I don’t count late(~wk8+) nanners as herms but… I generally won’t intentionally breed with anything that does that either.
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Leave your ozone on too long and you have some seriously pissed off plants. Got leaf damage and seeds last time I did that; learning curve 
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It’s not the strain but bad breeding practices. Yes my GSC will not Hermie under any circumstances I could make in the past 1.5 years. I currently have my failed breeder that’s refused to turn hermie when I sprayed 3 times a day with Colloidal Silver. It still turned female after a long delay. It’s not the breed!
You are not causing hermies, it’s the seeds.
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I never got hermies from Ozone, but I’m working with stable seeds. I use ozone(UVC) and my steup is outdoor/indoor. I battle mold every spring and triple the dose once to kill it when and it kills the mold but only almost kills the plants. I didn’t know about hermies. What else have you learned from the Ozone? I always wondered if it causes more resin output?
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Don’t over do it! 
I use it to kill bacteria, mold, and viruses. When I first got it I put it in my flower room for 30 minutes (16’ X 10’) room and it over did it. 5 min max and leave room for a while to let concentration drop.
I think it does what it is suppose to for no problems with mold,smells and such. Bud doesn’t have mold so…
As far as more resin it is hard to tell for I had so many other issues that needed to be addressed and making multiple changes and upgrades can’t really say it was this or that caused the improvement. I still have a number of things to do with the building before it can really be called a grow room and they are coming!
Wading through all the different genetics and getting an idea or developing a definite goal. The genetics I am finding are all over the place as far as quality and what works for me and friends.
What is it that I am after and where to find it…
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I’ve been focusing on Genetics for 5 years now. I have a mini breeding cell for one male and 3 females max… And I’ve come a long way. I probably have 10 good strains I have seeds from top quality NO HERMIES! I traded extensively before but I don’t want unproven genetics again, I’m spoiled now. My Veg and Flower are small and it requires a few crops a year to keep me in meds.
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Sometimes I notice if I do something extra. This time I sprayed to kill bugs. The next morning one jumped out with a bunch of bananas. I had a few that were almost ready to pull. That look like they were trying to spit seeds out. Most of the time I do believe it is my fault. I do agree with what the guys saying also. I believe when you start pushing them too hard after about the six week with the last two 0-0-0 that it will make it do it. I noticed that with Fox Farm with open sesame. If I did it full strength I had problems. Just a topic I’m trying to put my two cents in not trying to start an argument. Lol
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But no I do agree with the crosses and the new hybrids. This was talked about 30 years ago. This was talked about in high times. That one day it might be crossed out.
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Yes and this is ultimately my goal. Where I am at we became legal and I decided it was time to jump in. Been at for about two yrs and am just starting to get serious about it. This was my reason for joining the OG to bring it all together. There is sooo Dam much information to go through and so many people throwing out new ideas that this is what makes it so worth it. Glad you are kickin it with your genetics!
I might try to see if I can be dedicated breeder and grow for my friends and up my plant count! The numbers can help with the genetics
Haha! me too …I had a wonderful Sweet Tooth for decades who never, ever hermed- no matter what. {heating failures, power cut, heat stress- that sweet girl was so good. Breeder Steve’s creation.
Wonderful girl.
Edit…I wish to goodness I had let her be bred from. I just was unaware of the possibilities.
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I did a lot of seed trading and testing and the reason for hermie seeds is sexual history with fems in the lineage. So strains that have clean sexual history produce plants that require extreme abuse before going hermie. I’m not isolated in my belief, others have found this to be true. But regular seeds require more work and people hate work.
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“world of seeds” are in spain and worked their genetics indoors there
= it’s not the same “thai” peolpe mean, when they refer to the cultivar.
(not saying it’s bad, just saying it’s likely not pure thai anymore, though.)
what they call “thai” should be worked to a point of not showing any issues
anymore. i bet it’s crossed out and worked to thai-traits. it looks really good.
but real landrace thai takes longer than 8,5 weeks to be done.
the “real deal” GSC (i mean the cpk-bagseed that was hyped) is sadly the same …
it is made with genetics that are just prone. cookie fam have reported about using
their herm-bagseeds findings from their own grows … so, no wonder the result.
the more worked → the less it herms
= the less original it is (no matter how great).
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having said that:
i absolutely love that you have a nice gsc and thai at your disposal showing
the traits, but not the all-known downsides … kudos & respect, @SativaKid 
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I sense you want to argue, no thanks!
my humble point:
classic thai = longer than 8,5w
gsc = the closer to the original , the more it herms.
we could start arguing over these facts, but that’s not necessary …
i didn’t mean anything negative with my last post. i just felt like contributing.
please don’t feel attacked or triggered. not my intention. i’ll bow out and hope
you are not mad at me.
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i am very happy that you have a really awesome thai-type and
a great gsc-type that show the desired traits, but not the known
downsides. that is a really good thing !! it’s all good, brother
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Go check out Fleur De Mal Seeds. @Baudelaire has Breeder Steves Sweet tooth#4 that he has worked on since it went defunct.Might find your girl again in there
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Cakes and og I can personally back up. My previous strain I grew was Cheesecake x OG and it hermied easily. I could tell it was stress induced but it was really sensitive to anything out of the norm. I chose to cut it down mid flowering to protect the young plants i have now and saved some of the pollen which is in the freezer now and saved whatever buds were there. There was tiny green and soft seeds that had just started to form. The buds turned out OK for what it was. It got me high af and looked good but overall it wasn’t anything to be excited about. I am glad I remembered to keep the pollen since it was most likely from stress inducted hermie which I’m planning on using to pollinate a single bud on the strain I’m growing now which is white choco and would then create white choco cheesecake aside from the other unknown genetics/strains it probably has. They both have ruderalis genetics tho ik that
I listened to a view episodes of the Breeders Syndicate on utube. In one episode (don’t recall which one) notsodog made the point that as a breeder it might be a mistake trying to eliminate/disregard cultivars in the breeding process that a prone to hermaphrodism. His hypotheses was that hermaphrodism might be linked to traits like specific terpene- or cannabinoid profiles etc. you can not breed for with other cultivars.
Neroli 91, Phone Home, and Goji OG(F2 from copa) herm in veg.
Ratio for neroli/phone home was about 10%. All three triggered by cold air on the roots but I have had a few that had no issue with that.
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I personally think the herm trait is from drug cultivars being bred to monoecious hemp and/or seed-food lines in the past. Not some awesome sinsemilla plant.