@Grayeyes there must be many cultivars from Michoacan. @Elchischas can give us a better idea
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@Upstate- Yes, I think there may be quite a few not to mention individual growers tweaking.
I am finding that there seem to be wide variations in Oax and Huix as to when the express sex, whether male or female and definite size differences between sex. Did you find red stem purple Oaxacan? I donāt recall seeing you mention it.
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Still some interesting pure MichoacƔn Strains but not really easy to get. Those just are produced on small crops for private farmers use
My recent MichoacƔn Discovery its one of those rare Strains that sometimes barely can get out of its village.
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Yeah I find that too. Males kickoff a couple weeks before females and there are both tall and short phenos in both Huixtepec and Oaxaca. The shorter plants should be uppotted into your finish container once you know you have them. Once you have sex to the plants anything obviously short should get up potted. Oaxaca will likely sex before Huixtepec.
I havenāt but there are pink leaf stems and plants that turn purple and other colors in flowering. I think @GREANDAL found a purple stem pheno with a racy buzz. Oaxaca goes 13-20 weeks, but mostly 13-16 and I would guess the bulk of the 20-week phenotypes have been about bred out. Huixtepec flowers around 18 weeks from seed. With a veg they are definitely both faster to trigger. All of my Mexican plants have sexed for me by week 3. This is the first time Iāve grown any with some veg time. It definitely changes the entire potting schedule and the plants donāt stretch as much when they start flowering.
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Is that the one I have now? The one from the village? Iāll get some pictures later on this week.
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Curious what kind of scents/aromas youāve found associated with Michoacan lines? Also flowering time? Is it like Oaxacan where thereās a range of various from lines where thereās both skinny long timers and denser/fatter/fuller flowers that flower faster? IE cryptic labs vs BOEL or others
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Yes there were two skinny upright ones with purple stems and kerosene terps. They will definitely raise your heart rate!
They were all what one would call āworking weedā, that is to say motivating and pain relieving but the purple stems would probably freak out a first time smoker.
Oaxaca was my first attempt at a landrace and Iām forever grateful to @Upstate for that, I had craved it for years. I managed not to kill them and they turned out alright but not 100% perfect and still itās right up there with @slain ās Viet as my favorite smokes.
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Sounds lovely, will be on the lookout for that one!
@TexasTea Your Oaxacan clone is coming along this season and Iām looking forward to trying it seedless. Really like the look of her.
I did flower her out over the winter as well but it was just to make some additional seed using some reserved pollen I had. Here are some of her offspring growing now and they all look pretty similar to mom. All unsexed at this point.
They do so well in small containers too
@Upstate Four of the Oaxacan 3 sisters offspring getting a late start but should finish just fine.
Next four pics are from the last Oaxaca seed I had from the original Cryptic Labs repro you did. Still unsexed.
Below are some Santa Marta Colombian Gold (Kolbyās Organics) reproād by @YoBigdaddy
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Everything looks great but I gotta pop some of those Santa Marta!
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Thanks! Yea for sure now that you have that greenhouse setup seems like thereās still time to veg them and keep relatively small. Do it! 
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Wow the Oaxacan is impressive!!! Curious what your soil mix make up looks like, impressed with their health in a solo cup. Can you comment on how many weeks the solos have been going with the Oaxacans that are further along?
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Thanks @US3RNAM3, the soil Iāve been using lately is pretty inconsistent but itās often a base of homemade compost (primarily horse manure) as well as reused soil from past grows and then equal parts (roughly) of coco coir. Then I add in feather meal, bone meal, bio-fish for the macro nutrients. Then add some leftover juniper wood ash from the past winterās indoor fires along with some perlite. With this batch I then also added some vermiculite and #20 silver sand. Thatās pretty much it and itās been working pretty well.
The Oaxacans started in seedling cells for the first couple weeks and then were potted up to the solos for the last 8 weeks. Itās been terribly hot this year though so growth has been somewhat slow and they are light feeding plants which also makes a big difference. I just potted them up to half gallon after those pics were taken.
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Dang! Thatās a LOT of Oaxaca! 
Your plants are looking great. 
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Wow, killer lineup Deez! Those Cryptic Oaxacan look nearly identical to the cut I sent you. Such a great line and never disappoints. I canāt wait to see how you make out with them. The Santa Marta also look amazing. Weāre all getting very spoiled with these rare Mexican and other central American genetics especially.
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So these were females? The purple one Iām describing is a small male. Sounds like my next grow should be something.
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Yes both females. I had three good males and a hot mess Frankenfurter I let do itself just to see what might come of it. None of the three good ones had purple stems sadly.
I had seven females with 4 distinct different phenotypes.
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I would use that male not only for the purple stem but the short stature. There is a short frame pheno @Upstate found that I didnāt have.
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I chucked in a whole bunch of Oaxaca from @Upstate looking for the perfect one to cross with another plant from cape tribulation, I didnāt find a purple stem pheno unfortunately, but I did have a bit of variety on their node length and leaf width, interestingly the stockier ones didnāt necessarily flower any denser than the taller ones, the shorter ones I had were pretty much all pearl phenoās, with a few that were taller showing more flower density; which was exactly the opposite to what I was expecting. I had sort of put the shorter ones aside thinking they would be the ones I would select, but it didnāt end up being that way.
The stockier ones also for me didnāt seem to flower any faster either. Sometimes with the tropical varieties Iāve found that the purple stems will only show up if itās a bit cooler, and also Iāve found running lower nitrogen levels can bring it out. Thatās especially the case I found with the purple stem vb, but the png gold Iām running atm also seems to behave this way, though this didnāt seem to be the case with the Oaxaca.
They are not particularly āgoldā in appearance either, as in some varieties like the png gold are lime green and then yellow out when nearly done, and sometimes they will shed nearly all their leaves as well.
There may well be phenoās like the to be found in the Oaxaca, I might just have to do some more hunting next season. The Oaxaca is amazing smoke though thatās for sure and I canāt wait to grow out the Cape Trib/oaxaca.
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Wow. 4 weeks in half gallon fabric and my Huixtepec are in need of a transplant. Nice job keeping them happy so long in a solo. Glad you are going thru more Oaxaca seed.
Note to any and everyone reading this. If you want to try a Sativa and you want a 100% chance of finding a standout plant, grow Oaxaca and youāll find it.
Im surprised you found no gold phenos. Nearly all my plants turn gold. The shorties are the exception.
I must have given you the same batch of seed i found the midget OSS in. I might be accidentally growing several myself this summer. I made so many different mini batches of seeds my second grow its a crap shoot what i send sometimes. If you can remember how i labeled the seeds I can mark that batch so i donāt send it again. The Offspring will surely have tall phenos again, but Iāll make sure you get the 3 sisters line when its finished. That will be all tall gold phenos only. Doesnāt look like that will happen this summer.
( Iām having a flashback. I may have saved pollen.)
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No doubt! Had I known about OG Iād have joined years ago. Weāre all spoiled rotten. Truly spoiled. I love it!
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