Hey all! I came across some heirloom Kona Gold seeds that supposedly will throw some twin seeds and equatorial auto flowering genes. And it got me wondering what other unique traits/genes people have come across with landrace/heirloom stock.
Anybody have any cool findings or stories?
There are some ājungleā varieties of Panama Red that will grow spikes around the bottom of the main stalk. 
For real!? Like rose thorns? Or longer spikes?
Thanks for posting a photo! Really interesting. So they are stiff and not bendy right?
Would the viet black technically be a ājungleā strain as well?
Those are typically pre roots, and will show under the first node, if buried to cover them they will grow out.
Thatās a very cool trait. Sounds like an adaptation to give the plants a better chance of survival if the stem snaps. If the plant was lying horizontal on the ground after it got knocked down or snapped in the wind, those pre roots could take hold as soon as they touch soil.
Indeed, most all our plants do that actually itās just white bumps/dots typically though if humid enough at that ground level they will throw the aforementioned spikes. So good reason to top up your pots to just under the first node if you have space to do so.
Vietnam Black is an old hybrid of a Vietnamese landrace and Afghani. The Panama Red actually has spikes on male plants. Snowhigh calls them thorns, and thatās definitely what they look likeā¦ perhaps the plants were repeatedly getting dug up by some animal in their home climate(?) Plants from wet regions can have Roots growing out of the stalk like the Vietnam Black pictured above. East Manipur varieties can do this too.
The original Moroccan has adapted to a climate that has gotten drier and drier in Morocco over the last eight hundred years. Kind of a hurry up and finish making babies before you die from drought type of trait The plants actually begin to flower as the days are growing longer, similar to an Autoflower. They will do this even in a wet climate with longer days (NYā¦16 hrs daylight). Plants from the Egyptian Sinai, and also a Sudanese landrace will do this as well.
Pulga from Parvati Valley, Himachal Pradesh, India has been witnessed growing completely encased in ice for two weeks straight.
Many Indian Land races smell like Indian spices. We all select plants that have terpenes we enjoy and they must love Mamaās cooking in India LOLš. Curry, Masala, Cumin and other spices have been described as common terpenes.
Yeah mate they do. Iāve a lot of those terps going on. My favorite is a cross of Tanzanian landrace and my diesel cookie hybrid (ecsd X jack herer) X forum cut. Great yeild, strong euphoric energising strain with herbs and spices almost a panang curry.
@Upstate that is so cool! So you could potentially have an winter outdoor grow and not worry about frost? Iām assuming itās just while in veg, so you could start it before first frost and youād be golden?
So on the Moroccan and similar strains of you were to try and grow them indoors one would need to extend my daylight hours to trigger the flower??
Love me some Indian food, Iām going to look for some curry terps!
Itās such an adaptive plant. I never realized the extent though
Holy Sh*tballsā¦ youāre like a landrace encyclopedia! Learned so much from this. How do you know all of this?
For more high quality landrace info, check out The Central American landrace and heirloom thread (Part 1). 
Lol. Lots and lots of research. 4+ yrs. I asked and still ask lots of questions to people that know more than me. I love learning about this stuff, and I soaked up the information like a sponge. I donāt have a photographic memory, but with certain things itās pretty close. The interesting details that I learn are the ones that stick with me the most.
Itās something you donāt have to worry about Frost, itās just that the plants donāt die and donāt suffer any Leaf damage. But the cold does stunt them like other plants. I had mine survive plenty of cold, but the flowering kind of stalled. There are pictures on Cocogenes IG page showing the plants encased in ice. If you look at all the pictures you can actually see that the plants are growing. Of course it didnāt get colder than 32 in the middle of all that iceā¦
Moroccan will flower under any light cycle, like an Autoflower. But if you have the choice, and you were growing Outdoors itās best that the plants flower after the summer solstice. The light from the sun changes after the solstice and becomes better for flowering with more red lightā¦, however I have found beginning to flower sativas prior to the solstice helps control their height from the blue Spectrum the sunās Rays have at that time, and the plants will finish while the sun is still strong enough for proper Bud formation at my Northerly latitude
When you said they were encased in ice, I thought you meant a thick layer of frost. Not a plant-cicle. That almost looks like Jell-o with a carrot in it! I canāt believe there is any life in it, let alone growth!!!
And I get what youāre saying now with the Moroccan.
Never knew that about the blue light before the solstice. Learned a little about how light affects plants from a podcast, but it was all indoor stuff. Now Iām going to need to learn more about the outdoor side. Love it!
Think we met on insta upstate.
headband hso version X black cherry. Hope those Norfolk Island sativa provide you with something truely unique.
Yes we didš i had you briefly confused with someone else i met on instaā¦
As someone with a memory that is a sign of a wasted youth, I have always been jealous of people who are good at absorbing information via text.
I have a friend who can almost remember everything he has read in his life. Like you he is a walking encyclopedia about subjects that interest him. Im like a goldfishā¦ did I read this page already or not?
