Well looks like I may have a problem - Identified mites

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I reckon mites.
we use a soapy solution in a spray bottle, spray and wipe the sacks off (looks like little white spots usually under the leaves).
Spray the soil too, just to annoy 'em.
If your at 6 weeks you might need to grin and bear it if your running indoors.
Else twice a week for 2-3 weeks normally kills them off ime.

Agree spraying twice a week for 2 weeks I noticed what looked like spider webs on the tops of the first plants I saw damage on. Spinosad didn’t do shit to them. I’m cutting the worst plants simply because they are the smallest and hope the others that aren’t showing the damage will finish as I’m at 6 weeks flower. What kills these little fuckers so I can drown my space in it when these are done so I don’t have to worry about this shit again

Noticed what looked like spiderwebs on my smallest and most affected plants. Also the only ones in soil. They are getting cut tomorrow just because. Thinking spider mites. What can i kill them with? To late to spray now and they laughed at spinosad

I just stumbled on this thread mate saw shadeys pic of mites and jumped right in thinking it was your picture. Let me scroll up and have a looksee

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A very common problem, unfortunately. Can be a difficult problem to fix.
Take a gander at the following threads for some insight to possible solutions:


I’ve used an alternating combination of Green Cleaner and Azamax applied on scheduled intervals in the past to control them.

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Yeah. Mites. Just did a quick read and view.
It’s only the girl in soil?
If your dwc is fine, chop the girl tomorrow like you said, don’t disturb the soil, and then take the pot/stem/soil for a drive somewhere and leave it there.
We usually use the soapy water and rub technique to kill mites if we get it early enough, just have to hit the soil too.

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I vaguely recall mites have a natural predator?Some wasp maybe? Trick something?? All my lit is packed and stored, maybe I need to dig it out :fearful:

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I fuckin hate spider mite. Pure pain in the arse especially in flower. I’d hose your plant down in the bath or summat try wash whatever’s on the leaf off and underneath might keep them at bay for a few days. Also I know it’s summer but dropping temp slows them down massively.

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Any chance you can throw up a picture of these webs? I’ve seen them strand when they heavily infest, but not web

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All those white dots are nests. If you put some liquid detergent on your thumb and pointer and rub, they’ll come off the leaf.
The black dots, if you watch them long enough, they move.
A pretty heavy infestation mate. Your indoors?
Maybe a bleach solution, spray and wipe everything, then maybe the heaviest neem spray you can find sprayed everywhere.
And ditch any organic matter far away and start anew.

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trichogamma? or similar?

Right, there are some folk that swear by the use of natural predators as opposed to using insecticidals.

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Aye. Anything natural is good as opposed to chems.
If you can’t say it, you shouldn’t spray it.

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Moving around, can’t send pics from here the owner will not like it ^^

I’m back this evening (EU) with pics/macros of my crop and an efficient and easy/cheap napalm for them. I’m under attack since the warm peak, big one, and far more advanced in the infestation than you.

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Ill post pics after work. The girls in soil are yellowing out on me. They started flowering faster than the dwc. Left them for 2 days after spraying with spinosad and when I opened the space I was like wtf.

When I chop them what can I do to get the mites off the buds so I’m not losing everything you them

Hey there, was hard to take decent shots. Pretty backed as fck ^^

Remember than i’m an advanced state, i’ve let these suckers invade the crop during i think ten days without blowback. Busy as fuck, and i was not worrying about the little and rare “white” patchs on males only (these suckers love fresh pollen, it’s like bodybuilders milk-proteins for them)… no matter your mileage, sometimes you invite the worries for a party like a faithfull idiot.

This male look fine (under treatment), but when you look closer :

Not the same story.

I’ve take a fresh clone in photo to show how it started :

So the napalm is pretty simple and will scarry a bunch of people i guess : nicotine.

I use 99% USP nicotine extract, it mean barely 1 grammer of nicotine per milliliter. The average prices for a decent quality are around 300€ per liter. It represent around 1000 liters of universal napalm ^^ Prepare only one “sprayer”, no stock, and keep the nicotine on the freezer (in a sealed box with lock key for safety, the whole in a thick zip bag).

I put 1 milliliter per Liter in a “manual spray tool”, eventually 1 milliliter of Magic Green (House and Garden) in bonus. That’s around 1mg per milliter and it’s enough for the war for near all cannabis pests (tested on gnats, thrips, red spiders and these uggly translucide things than are digging in trunk and stems … i forgot the name, it give fusarium disease)

You can replace the Magic Green by any good foliar product (choose those for clones if you can).

Spray first under the leafs, the trunk and the surface of the medium (soil, coco coir, anything). Then spray the whole plant. You don’t have to worry, it’s systemic (the whole plant will give nicotine with each bite during a limited time. From 24 hours to 48 hours maximum at peak activity, after the suckers are coming back (eggs not killed) in force take care. It’s not the spanlife of the nicotine in water etc … the plant just metabolize it so, the plant “eat it” and lower the rate in vegetal mass this way.

I use it also for gnats and it’s radical. And the plants love it, it give them a boost and release the tension on their defenses.

For gnats, just avoid the foliar compounds and spray it generously at the surface of the medium BEFORE each watering. It’s enough to eradicate them fast. I’ve tryed to directly include the nicotine in nutes, not worth the cost and it create weird reactions with kelp-based products and polarized K boosters.

They will come suffocate at the top of leafs and turn brown/dark. eggs will turn yellow / dark yellow but that’s the major part of the work : killing eggs. To boost the process, take double gloves (vinyl for chemicals or thick “washing plates” gloves) edit : Fck typed too fast.

Spray the gloves with your napalm, and rub gently the surface of the gloves on UNDER the leaves to get the maximum eggs you can in one gesture. Put your hands in a buck of water with a hint of chlorine, repeat. It’s a pain in the ass to do and you have to be very carefull for the plant, but when you have to save an unique motherplant … sometimes you have to live the hell lol

A fews hours later you will see this kind of mix (in advanced infestation like me ^^) :

These suckers will climb to a safe zone, in the pics you can see one dead and 4 alive (but hardly knocked allready). I spray twice a day for that. Morning/Evening (of the plants).

Now the disclaimer about the nicotine …

Why nicotine produce more fear than many dangerous chemicals busted in dispensaries :

  1. because the neonicotinoids, specially in USA. And it’s not the same thing. Pure nicotine is just an extraction like an CBD or THC extraction. Neonicotinoids are war machines with incredible lifespan and spectrum of action.

  2. because the cigarettes. Medias, propaganda, governments cynicism and hypocrisy, Ph, oncologists … they will mostly let think the mass than the nicotine is the responsible of deaths. It’s responsible for dependency only, the “goodness” killing people are not writed on the packaging of tabacco. They crush our balls to have everything listed in details for anything else but that … no. They are barely at the state to say than it’s better to stay on traffic twos hours than smoking a single cigarette ^^ Don’t dream, your AC filter don’t filter anything. They (car manufacturers) broke pollution close to nano particules to cheat pollutions tests, since ages. It have started with palladium (now replaced with russian nikel), and today the whole engine is breaking the combustion in the finest particules they can. A nano particule is like a 7.62 bullet in your chest, nothing can stop it and its damages.

Now the dark side :

  1. A 999mg/ml density is dangerous to store and dangerous to use. With years of practice (for my vape), it’s not a big deal but when you known nothing and when you’re not used to work with chemicals … ask yourself if you have enough constancy in your secure habits to deal with it.

1b) If you’re a careless stoner, buy (cheap) cigars. The tabacco is always better than industrial cigarettes (less funky additives and pesticides), and not specially more expensive for the weight/nicotine ratio. One cigar contain around the nicotine of 20 cigarette (one pack). A cigarette (regular) countain around 10mg of nicotine in average than you can use as napalm. So you need around 5 cigars to start. Take care, don’t used fake cigars with minced tabacco inside but those using only plain leafs. You don’t have to smoke them, go cheap. It’s uncommon in my country but i think than for an US citizen a chewing tabacco can make the deal more in ease maybe. But i don’t known enough these products to give an average rate or their level of purity.

The problem with this way is the lack of control on nicotine rate. It stay mobiles averages, the nicotine rate of each cigarette or cigar can’t be the same.

  1. The perimeter of a fews leafs will burn lightly and quickly, just like an overfert. It’s because this trick is systemic like neem oil, the plant will store nicotine and release it everywhere (roots, leafs, stems …). You have to find the sweet spot between burn/pest killed fast. Depend on strain also. I have a Grapestomper OG x Bubba Kush than is taking it full throttle like a charm, without burning. The Jack Herer is using the nicotine like a veg booster and auxin stimulator … don’t ask me why i don’t known.

  2. The dryed vegetal mass will contain traces of nicotine if you don’t manage it. So don’t spray it just before harvesting, let enough time for the plant to totally wipe it ^^ Well just like any commercial spray, heavy metals and others garbage in left.

  3. At canna lab spain, someone have proven to me than most of homegrown weeds are toxic by a bad management of the nutes. No joke at all. The problem is than it’s far more dangerous than traces of nicotine in your weed … without forgetting than in term of combustion (not compounds), a single cone is like around 15 cigarettes smoked at a time. Big catalyst of worries. So, yeah i think about that each time i read “flush or not flush”. In fact it’s a fake debate, the true debate is “overfert or not overfert. Which strain. And with what, and when.” Less sexy to troll for sure.

  4. Everyone, even the most uneducated, is able to be aware than using nicotine as pesticide is not without responsabilities. It’s obvious but : never in hydro, never outdoor.

  5. tested recently, you can protect seeds with it. By that i mean the seed production, not the seeds themselves. Off course don’t spray just before harvesting your seeds, logic.

If you feel bad about all of that, just don’t do it. If you feel fear : tons of documentation on the web and experiments (on apes, mices, dogs …), it will help you to be more in ease with the subject, outside the locked box of “nicotine is the worst murderer of the planet” “nicotine is monsanto round up” etc …

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Go to check them today and i find plants that were fine yesterday to have leaves looking lily claws

<img src="/uploads/default/original/3X/f/0/f04de87a7ff82e2664255f6e8c52193beff46862.jpg"width=“375” height=“500”> ugh I’m about to say fuck it and chop them and throw this shit out. They went from smelling of goodness to like green grass overnight

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Can i like this post more than once. Predators in flower.