Good point. When I did flood + drain I would run up to 80 clones in SOG usually all the same strain.
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When you did SOG did you flower right out the gate? How much space did you alow each plant? I was going to do SOG my next grow with Autos but I got scared. More plants More Problems. I have to work on my Auto skills before I do anything like that.
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I would not use autos for SOG. From what I’ve seen autos look like they grow bushy. Strains that like to grow single colas with out much branching are best. You want to crowd them in and have an even canopy. Lots of smaller plants. That being said I used to drop my clones in and veg for maybe two weeks pinching off lower branches as they started to sprout. My goal was to end up with just a few colas on top of the plant. A nice even sea of green. 
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I could have 80 plants in 3.5" net pots in a 4x6 ft tray. I made a cover that went over the tray and drilled 80 holes for the net pots. Because the tray was covered I would get a huge root mat in the tray.
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Wow 80 plants in a 4x6! I bet it was a big root mat.
I did realize Autos would not be good. I hardly did any training and I still ended up with a bush. I do have a strain I feel would be great to SOG. But I got that JOTI gear I gotta try. Lol.
Why did you stop growing in hydro?
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A nasty divorce forced me to shut down and sell all my equipment. I had a nice sized room for flower another room for mothers and etc. I miss having rooms instead of tents. lol
Ex sent the cops to my house twice. 
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Sorry WHAB for hijacking your thread. 
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That’s terrible.
Yeah, sorry @WhiteHotAfterburner.
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It’s perfectly fine,@Floyd
and @LilJonB … I enjoyed the read!
All comments are literally welcomed!
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WHAB
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lol, I’ll try to keep the irritating suggestions to a minimum 
Keep on keepin’ on!!!
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WHAB
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I just bumped up their nutes
I mixed up a 5 gallon bucket of pH’d (5.8) water with Mega Crop’s “Late Veg” recipe at full strength (2.5 grams of each A & B component) which resulted with an E.C. of 1.6 in the bucket…
…and put that in the reservoir which resulted in an E.C. of 1.2 (600ppm on the 500 scale) and a pH of 6.
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WHAB
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In preparation of the upgraded Ebb & Flow system I routed out the lids of the new 100% opaque black 5 gallon buckets. These lids are a one-time use to accept the 2 gallon inner buckets in the grow space now.
I did find some of my router accessories, specifically the starting pin. I used it as a guide instead of the F clamp I used the last time. It is a lead pin allowing you to get a good start when addressing the router bit you’re using. I still fell out of the line a couple of times 
Then the aftermath 
(this was with me vacuuming up the top surfaces each time )
Again, it threw plastic more than 6 feet to the left. A bit messy but I think it is the best way I had to accomplish the task. I intentionally made the holes just a smidge smaller than the holes I cut in the blue lids. The 2 gallon buckets fit snugly in the lids. That ‘may’ present a problem down the road. They ‘may’ be difficult to remove once their in their new home IF I need to remove them for any reason. But, again, these cut-out lids are a one time use in the new Flower system.
I bought 12 netpots for the next grow that will take the plants from the Veg stage in the 2 gallon buckets then those netpots will go right onto the 5 gallon buckets (Tentatively ).
I bought the netpots from Home Depot - they had the best price that included shipping. $29.93
Their tracking page was showing a delivery date of 04/29/2021 - today. Now the Home Depot page is showing…
"Just Shipped!
Tracking details will be available once the package arrives at the UPS facility. Please check back soon!"
UPS tracking was showing same delivery date. Now shows…
"Estimated delivery
Check back tomorrow for an updated delivery date."
I placed the order on 04/20/2021 (coincidentally 
). They’ve had it since 04/20.
Now I don’t know when they’ll arrive 
I forgot to check the plants just prior to Lights On…
After I do a cleanup of the plastic debris, I am going to go up and check things in the Veg space and the new arrivals, then I’m going to start processing the 5 gallon buckets to accept the 3/4 inch bulkhead fittings I bought for them.
I’ve also tentatively decided to use some of the treated 2x4’s my niece left for me () for the long wall, the East wall, where the systems are currently located. The 2x4 I have here at the 1924 Schoolhouse that I was going to use is 14+ feel long, and decided not to use it because it is treated and I thought that would be wasteful. I haven’t looked at the pile for a while. I am assuming it is all still there! From memory from the last time I looked at the pile they were all at least that long.
I don’t have any plans of building any ‘real’ structure outdoors as of now and with the price of lumber I don’t have much choice. I want that wall studded out so I can better utilize that space and at the same time get the controller bucket in the conditioned space. Along with the East wall, I also want at least the short wall, the South wall, studded out so I can better run the P&S. I am ‘planning’ to put the controller bucket right in front to air conditioner outlet duct to keep it cool.
IF I am unable to build the attic out for a Flower room I am thinking I ‘might’ be able to do both - Veg and Flower - in the loft BUT, I don’t really want buckets of liquid right above where I bed down
When I reconfigured the buckets in the Veg space 2 buckets did leak. I went up and adjusted the fittings in the bucket and I thought I had corrected the problem. I had not 
The cardboard it was dripping on got waterlogged and wasn’t making a dripping sound when it hit it. It was still leaking but I didn’t know it, the waterlogged cardboard acted as a silencer! When I discovered I had not corrected the problem I grabbed to 2 remaining new 1/2 grommets and that fixed it.
IF I do wind up building out the loft to do double duty, I am going to try and either waterproof the floor up there or create a diverter of some sort to drain into a bucket under the loft, near where I bed down and HOPEFULLY not drain on where I bed down! .
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WHAB
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With all you have on your plate, you know we understand.
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For that I am sincerely grateful!
And, not included in the above, I just spent the last hour + handling some VA business I had neglected - like I needed other distractions and consumers of me finite time
Warm regards, @G-paS 
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WHAB
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6 buckets processed.
I measured 1.2 inches from the very bottom of the outside of the bucket which placed the body of the 3/4 inch bulkhead fitting butt up against the bottom of the inside of the bucket, as seen in the first picture below. That’s for a bulkhead fitting with at width (on the ‘flat’, not the nibs on the body) of 1.77 (splitting the difference of previous measurement). That puts the through-hole for the fitting 5/32nds inch (0.156 inch) from the very bottom of the inside of the bucket.
That’s ready to go, in this iteration.
Just fyi, I had considered putting the bulkhead fittings on the bottom of these buckets and drilling holes through the floor of the loft to get the last little bit of nutrients/water out of the buckets on the Drain cycle. But, I couldn’t work it out in my head how best to get it back in the Controller bucket to send it back to the Reservoir. The Controller bucket will be approximately where it is now, on the loft. Unless the controller is taken off the loft and put on the main floor I don’t see a good way of doing that. Especially since I’d ‘like’ to have the controller bucket in the conditioned space.
I only processed 6 of the new 100% opaque 5 gallon buckets because there is a chance that after running this new system for a while I ‘might’ decide there is a better way as mentioned above.
Next I am going to finish up with the Cloning Machine II and try to get it up in the loft and likely start on the stand for it I have in my Thought Process Machine - I may just use the unused 2 gallon buckets I already have up there as I mentioned previously. There is one problem with that and that is lighting. I’d like to take some clones off the girls in Veg now but those 2 foot long T5’s is being used by the new unsexed arrivals. IF I get a chance I’ll buy those 4 foot long lights @dequilo recommended and is using with great success.
However, Roots (MPG) graciously sent me this…
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!
…and I don’t know with what I need to put it into use. In researching it I find that the once recommended Compact Fluorescent Fixture is no longer available, it’s been discontinued. Everything I have found returns back to that discontinued fixture.
Does anyone know what I need to put that 95W CFL with a E39 base in to service?
Would something like this…(a E26 to E39 Adapter)
…work? Is it as simple as that? I mean, I see the voltage is 120V so I know it can run off of a common power outlet. Is that what other growers are doing?
Oh, everything up in the loft is doing amazingly!
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WHAB
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If you don’t want to wire in a e39 mogul base (which are available). Then the e26 adapter will work just fine.
On another note I threw my last DJ short into flower and it’s a girl which means the clone I gave you is also…
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It’s a Girl! Your a good pal @Oldjoints!
Hey WHAB do you want the white bucket in there flush? I’m not sure I’m just guessing. If you did I was thinking 6" PVC ring the white bucket can sit on in the black bucket. Drill holes through the PVC ring so water can still flow through.
If that’s not what you was trying to do disregard this message. Lol
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Loving the black buckets! It will definitely help stabilize conditions.
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Thank you in both regards, the E39 and the news about the new girl! Awesome, man!
Thank you!
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WHAB
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