thanks again for the info. based on your description it does sound like the effect was pretty heavily influenced by the yeti. it seems like it’s pretty common for the afghani aspects to get drowned out by the high of a modern hybrid in this type of hybrid.
It will be interesting to sample the care package in the fall and see how this shapes up. I haven’t found any grow report for this pack, but with cannabis you never really know what to expect until you smoke it.
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Ah yep that’s gotta be it. Nice find! He released them as the strain “aborigine”, but it’s hard to find much other info on it. Seems about the right time frame though. I remember I got it about the time he first started selling strains on GLG. I hadn’t heard of him, so I figured I’d pick one and give it a shot. Knew next to nothing other than that.
If you’re specifically interested in OMG, I might be able to find some Cherry Queen F2s for you. That’s a fully afghan strain and half is OMG.
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That would be awesome lefthand.
Are there any lines in my grow journal that you’re interested in? I’d be happy to give you a selection of my seed projects.
I’ll be sending you a package when the guava x purple paralyzer project is complete, I’m definitely planning to include some pure guava hashplant f2 seeds in case you want to bx the guava paralyzer.
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Cool! That’s a deal. I’ll hit the DM and set it up.
I wouldn’t mind trying some of your Dank Sinatra / Lebanese. I’m very interested in the genetic combination of Afghan & Lebanese. I have some Black Lebanon / Black Afghan I made that I want to do a run on, but it might be fun to see what yours are like as well. Looking at your plants, I’m certain they’ll be completely different!
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quick update on the Care Package (omg/krush x fantasy island).
The seeds were tiny, but started well with decent tap roots. They also sprouted pretty strong, although the seedlings were tiny.
After that, things got a little weird. None of them grew normal true leaves. Instead of serrated leaves, they all grew tiny single blade leaves at each vein. The leaves were frilly or fern like, and pretty mutant looking. Almost like some of the plants pictured in the freakshow seed run thread.
I planted them outdoors in 5 gallon pots. I was assuming more than one would need to be culled, but they all appear to be normalizing now that they have established larger root systems.
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Guava Hashplant update
I am working on another round of guava hashplant breeding to get more seedstock and diversify the line. This is a very special medicinal line and I need good stock for preservation and future medical use.
I started 4 guava f2 seeds: 2 seeds from mother pheno f, and 2 seeds from mother pheno b. 4/4 germinated, one pheno b seedling is a little pale and sprouted with one of its cotyledons split in half.
I germinated the last two original f1 seeds from my bodhi guava hashplant pack. Both were unusual seeds, one was small and spherical, the other large and three sided. The small spherical guava hashplant f1 seed is doing great, it is now a well established healthy seedling.
The 3 lobed, 3 sided seed germinated strong, but soon ran into trouble. because it had 3 narrow sides instead of 2 symmetrical sides, the seedling didn’t have the leverage it needed to lift any of 3 sections of shell. As the tap root grew, the ends of the 3 sides kind of formed a pincer and stabbed into the stem/taproot. I manually opened the shell, but the seedling looked badly damaged. After 2 days it started to look worse, almost like it was starting to damp off at the damaged area of stem. As a last ditch attempt to save the seedling, I put it outside to get some real sunlight and fresh air. All of a sudden, it has revived and looks like it may pull through. I hope it survives.
Here’s a doodle illustrating the 3 sided seed germination problem.
Now that this f1 seedling is outdoors, I’m not sure how I could use this plant in my indoor guava f1 x guava f2 breeding project. Most likely it will join my outdoor lebanese breeding project. If it’s a female, it will be pollinated by all of the pure lebanese males.
If it does well I may be able to take cuttings and wash them for indoor use.
I’m still trying to recover a clone of pheno B, my favorite guava pheno. fortunately the guava b clone I planted outdoor in early may is looking absolutely amazing. Veging like a beast with densely stacking growth points on about 8 primary branches. This will produce some insane colas. These genetics love the sunlight.
The plant is super healthy. I may take clones and bring them indoor with a thorough wash process. The clones would be soaked in a solution of water and 1/4 rubbing alcohol. Then in a solution of water and 1/4 hydrogen peroxide. that should get rid of any mold spores or pests that could be on the outdoor plant. then they will be sprayed with essential oil pest control as a precautionary measure.
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Is the three sided seedling showing whorled phylotaxi?
I have three GHP F2 seedlings above dirt and three F1 cuts still trying to figure out the roots thing. Looking forward to raising them.
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I don’t think the three sided seed guava f1 is displaying whorled phylotaxy, but it barely has true leaves.
At the moment it’s just hanging in there, but if it can establish it should take off.
One of my guava f2 seedlings definitely has whorled growth on its first set of true leaves. They are curved, but not total mutants. I think it’s one of the f2’s from pheno F.
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Awesome 
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Thanks for stopping by stray! Your care package line is absolutely beautiful. It’s producing slender, towering, narrow leaf beauties with excellent branching.
These are definitely going to be heady. When I catch a glance of them in the garden late at night through the window, it looks like they are doing this:
I’ll get some photos today.
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The leaves are darker in person, but the camera was confused by the fact that they are practically fluorescing in the mid day sun.
I won’t even try to get coherent pictures of this garden, because it’s not possible.
In the garden we have lebanese landrace, “pink mother” and “green mother” selections, lebanese sinatra f1 (dank sinatra x lebanese landrace male), lebanese sinatra f2 donut shop, and strayfox care package.
@Strayfox All the tallest plants are your Care Package, except for the males which are lebanese landrace.
And in the ground we have Guava Hashplant f1 pheno B,
“guava hairspray” pheno which cures to a silver color.
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Outdoor plants looking excellent, when I can see them through the smoke. Good thing I am growing for seed this year. Everything is praying, and was very happy after 5 days with no care or watering.
Indoors, things are not going well at all. Because of my ventilation setup, I had to close off my grow room from the rest of the house to keep the smoke from getting in. The plants are not happy with this change of environment. The drop in temperature resulted in one tent displaying symptoms of overwatering because they are drinking so much slower, and the other tent is displaying weird mottled leaves. I suspect things will be back to normal once I can have the door open again, and venting conditions are back to normal.
Worst of all, my rolly polies have started to eat my seedlings. This has never happened before, but I did notice that they ate vegetation whenever the soil is too moist for them, and this is in the tent with symptoms of overwatering. My beneficial decomposers have gone turncoat!
Not sure what to do. I think I’ll just spray neem oil and top dress with neem seed meal as soon as I can resume taking care of the plants normally.
Due to the turncoat beneficial bugs, I now have only 4 maple leaf indicas, and there is not much I can do about it until the wildfire smoke abates.
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They are running out of food. Relocate as many as you can. Maybe topdress some food of some type for the rolly’s? This happened to me once and I relocated some to the back of my yard.
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Great advice Tommy. I have some organic parsley and cilantro, I think I will give some a very thorough wash and then feed it to my rolly polies.
That reminds me that I never had this problem when I used to grow multiple companion plants in each pot, and regularly did chop and drop mulching.
I stopped growing the companion plants to reduce light competition and to see if it made a difference in quality. conclusion- growing the same cut in two cycles, first cycle with companion plants, second set without, the aroma was definitely stronger and more complex when grown with lemon balm and mint as companion plants. It also improves the consistency and drainage of no till soil.
Afterwards, I never got around to re-establishing my companion plants.
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I am using basil for companion plant in my backyard garden. Basil is cheap, easy to grow and the flower provides seeds. I added basil seeds to Blue Moon Rocks plants and will note results during flower phase. Here is a photo of comfrey and basil growing in the backyard in 5 gallon bucket:
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Great idea to use basil as a companion plant and trap plant. I have a packet of basil seeds, I will definitely toss some into my no-till pots along with some lemon balm and marjoram seeds.
@Tommy_McCain thanks again for the tip, no more seedling losses!
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@Strayfox I love these care packages! They have grown to 11 feet in 5 gallon pots of no till soil!
I am making some care package x lebanese landrace hybrids, and I’m very excited to see how they turn out. I’d love to find some phenos with lebanese flowers on a giant care package frame.
Their structure is great for outdoor growing in my environment, copious bud sites for small flowers with a relatively long internode distance which gives then good airflow and resistance to bud rot and mold. They should all yield well, and some phenos are making nice primary colas as well.
I might need to buy another pack of these if they are still available.
Now that we are finally getting some respite from the smoke in my neck of the woods, I’ll try to post some more photo updates soon.
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Zephyr have you tried any of the iraqi from Strayfox yet I’m really curious about tracking some down.
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I think I sent you some of my open pollination F2 of bodhi’s TK x Iraqi, didn’t I @zephyr? If not, please let me correct that oversight immediately. 
One of the recent pics bodhi took of a male in the Iraqi line looks a lot like one of the ladies I found. Here’s my TK x Iraqi #7 tan lines pheno:
And here’s one of the Iraqi males he found along the way:
@Torontoke is just past 7 weeks of flower with several of the TKI F2 phenos. They get big with a huge stretch, reasonable space between buds, and small to medium sized buds that might do well outdoors for you. I think some of TT’s were dusted with Dank Zappa pollen. 
you have to watch out for intersex indoors, but only 1 of his phenos had a few nanners around week 3 that didn’t reappear once plucked.
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Guava hashplant breeding update
I have just flipped my tent full of guavas to flower on october first, which puts me on track to harvest from late november to early december. These have sometimes flowered in barely over a month, so it may be sooner.
I had intended to flower these about 3 weeks ago, but the wildfire smoke really interfered with my ability to work on my grow.
I definitley “overgrew” my tents. There are also 2 giant “guava F” cuts in my other tent. I will have to squeeze at least one of them in with the rest of these so it can be pollinated.
1 week ago in veg
*sorry for the out of focus photos, I didn’t take any of these
Yesterday
These are not stretching, so much as exploding. Look at my vertical lighting for size reference, those fixtures have 2 foot fluorescent bulbs. You may notice some mangled and bent leaves on the F2 guava at the far right, that is because it has just been manhandled and staked to keep it out of the bulbs.
This is the last F1, and as you can see it’s extremely male. This is a best case scenario, because now I can spread these good bodhi f1 genetics around as much as possible. Every other plant in there is a guava f2. Finding an f1 male means I can perform an f1 incross with my f2’s for maximum genetic diversity within my selections. I can also use this to hit my guava F cuts for a completely new f2 selection.
Hopefully I can make room in the tents by culling a few f2 males. I will want to make sure this f1 male produces good pollen before I make any selections. The most important trait I look for in male plants is copious production of healthy viable pollen.
Fortunately, the f1 male preflowered within 2 days of switching to 12/12 photoperiod. This is good because photoperiod sensitivity is another trait I look for (it indicates early flowering when the line is grown outdoors), and also because the f2’s have not sexed yet. This will give me time to evaluate this male while the other plants are still determining their sexes in the preflowering stage.
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