South African Cannabis Strains, Heirloom Varieties, and Other “Dagga” Topics, with Hugo… - Bing videoUsually Durban Poisin gets a very fat middle leaf on the fan leaves. I agree…I’m thinking too more than ever this is landrace Durban ( kwazulu) without hindu kush in it.
Happy New Year! Outta likes today already.
@Upstate happy new year my friend, yes from what i am seeing is no fat leaves, meaning pure sativa, it seems so far anyways, time will tell on these though
i grew a durban this last run as i was hoping for the thin sativa leaves but got more of the hybrid, skunk leaves, it was a good smoke but not the one i wanted. do you get the likes back?
We shall soon see if its pure.
One more hour…
this was durban from my last grow, same age as the ones im growing now.
fat leaves, def, see skunk? or hindu in it. Big difference in the ones i have now
Dutch Durban? There’s the fat middle leaf. Often fatter.
yes sensi durban, i would vote it was cut with a skunk? the way it grew and stunk reminded me a the cultivator, could have been hindu but not sure. ( dense, compact buds produced, very pungent) I would guess more skunk but deffent could see it
i say though the ones are different by night and day.
Skunk or northern lights most likely. Northern lights was the go to for " stabilizing" a strain that flowered too long or didn’t yield heavily enough.
yup and imagine all the lost genetics through time and breeding.
i understand it and what they were doing at the time.
big and fast yields were the thing and still seems to be the case with most growers as they think anything past 9 weeks is a long time.
i also do believe the Oaxaca is a female, im about 70% sure but time will tell
As much as I’d hate to, if i ever make more outdoor friendly strains for NY, I’ll have to do something similar myself. Its a necessary evil i suppose.
Got a Oaxaca close-up?
no but ill do it later after work if i remember. i would say use a skunk since they are strong hearty strains.
I’ve got some unique ideas for tropicals without using skunk or nl. Similar idea, yet totally different. I’ve always blazed my own trail😁
yup thats what life is all about @Upstate, the strains we have now days, some of them anyways are real good ones to mess with.
there are so many options for sure.
Blaze that trail, my friend and make it bright
Interesting, were have you got that information from blendmedman ? Because despite what people think the durban that got sent to Europe with one line staying back in the usa didn’t get sourced in SA but actually came from Holland to begin with.
Yes the second picture was tlrt one.
I dont think the original zecetecas even exists no more. It sould look like the more sativa phenotypes coming out of your h.o.g. but purple with even the seeds sort of staining purple. If it is still around it might be with some old collectors or in Hawaii still.
there is so much mis information on this strain. everything i have found either came from different websites, as well as books from people, the stories are there but you have to really look. there are several links in the thread so far that when you read them, you can piece together a lot of information.
yes mel brought it to Holland, at least one pheno. that was shared, worked on ect.
durban is a city that in the 50s-60s-70s was a big surfing center, and these surfers at the time could have brought the strain over to the states remaining unknown at the time.
durban poison is the name of the strain that was worked on or cut.
there is also @anon98152597 who is from s africa
he has helped let me know the area sativa that this could be, meaning what i am growing
the durban poison was breed with a short flowering strain(s) to increase yield and make flower faster.
the sativa from the durban area are only a few and once these flowers, we will all know what they are,
so @nightmare i invite you to help research this so you may find the truth as well as i said before there is so much mis information on this strain. the info we see is from the 80s. as that is how the story goes on durban poison. it is all a collective history from different sources so far
Mel Frank - Durban Poison - YouTube
@nightmare this is what we know about durban poison, but there are two phenos he talks about, one being a sativa and the other is the one we see and accept as durban posion.
there are also stories that ed found durban poison when he was in south africa.
the durban sativa is the pure “poison”
what i am doing is finding the source of the famed durban prior to it be worked on.
if you listen to mel in the above link he states he wishes he had the orig. durban but said it was lost
the strain came from a landrace in the area.
Some of this information comes from Mel Frank’s 1988 edition of one of his books. It doesn’t say where the seed came from prior to San Francisco . So you are saying that these South African varieties grown in the States originally came from Holland, is that right?
The more I learn the more I am liking the story that Hindu Sailors were captured by tribals in the area and they had some kush genetics with them that mixed with the already present kwazulu area landraces.
It doesn’t mention anywhere in my book that kush genetics were added in San Francisco, which leads me to believe they were already present in South Africa.
And then you have to think about what would happen if kush genetics were released in a limited fashion, and a hundred years plus had gone by? Would there be a remnant of this introduction in the form of a squat bush phenotype with growth of an indica and the high of a sativa. Reminds me very much of the black African magic variety many people have been seeking. Very likely a similar circumstance occurred in the Congo in the 1950’s, when Kush genetics intermingled with already established Congo genetics, leaving behind a clue (in the form of an Indica phenotype )that this introduction occurred.
Yes upstate. The seeds came originally from Europe, I believe from import an were taken to usa to start the two main Durban lines. If other ones exist outside of this I dont know about them.