Great score on some excellent sounding genetics ,good luck with finding a few keepers!
@lefthandseeds if you have any of the black afghani or cherry queen to spare I would love to add it to the collection.
@Heritagefarms do have some I could give you. The females I had from the black afghani Iām a little shaky on. Itās a very nice strain and a great smoke, but all of my females hermed late flower. I think it may just be present in the line that USC offers. Right now, Iām thinking if I do an expanded run of the F2s I made and canāt find any that donāt herm, I might take an outcross, stabilize it, incross and stabilize again.
Itās not a huge deal, since the balls develop like 1-2 weeks before chop. Pretty much impossible to grow mature seeds from herm pollen in that timeframe. Just annoyingā¦
I did see that you had some issues with it, if all the plants went hermie I would have to pass , i thought there was one that dident ,but do agree itās a line worth working if you have time.
There was a female that I thought didnāt herm. It was the one that ran late. As I was trimming it, I found 1 cluster of a few balls. So it didnāt herm a lot, but the trait was still there. None of them opened or produced pollen at the time of cutting. I have 3 original seeds left that Iāll probably try sometime when I figure out what I want to do with this line ā if I decide to stabilize it out.
For the Cherry Queen, I had 2 phenos for the females. #1 was structurally better, more piney, didnāt herm but threw a few stamen (probably in response to light leaks or some other stress). #3 was totally stable, cherry pheno, more leafy and slightly lower yield. Both were pollinated with 2 males.
On average what are you pulling off for dried flower in these 6ā pots and how long is your preferred veg period?
It depends a lot on the strain. The Afghani Lowland I grew earlier in the thread yielded a nearly full gallon mason jar. Some of these other Afghanis, just a regular quart mason jar. So Iād say the range is about 2-8oz.
I usually grow pretty compact plants, and only give them about 14-16" square of space. I veg for 3-4 weeks, and start flower pretty small. But Iāve grown big plants, small plantsā¦ doesnāt really matter too much. You can fit a lot of roots in 1 gallon of coco. The main difference is how quickly the roots dry up the pots. If you scale down to the size Iām using, you compensate by feeding 3x per day usually. If you run 5 gallon pots, you probably feed 1x per day.
Thereās a lot of variables that can affect the per plant yield. I havenāt done any kind of analysis on the oz/watt metric, which would be a better gauge. But I also donāt really care about yield, since I already struggle to give away the amount that I grow. I run high numbers so that I can do more selections when I make seeds. Iām usually throwing whole packs at a time, and if I want to grow it again, I go off whatever I make.
I guess if I werenāt making seeds, Iād be more concerned with trying to get the most out of each one. But I usually make at least 10x what I started with, so at some point seeds just pile up and you develop a disregard for the numbers youāre using.
Just for reference, my current Lebanese outdoor plants:
ACE Leb #1:
ACE Leb #2.
Blue Hemp Leb x RSC Leb #1.
Blue Hemp Leb x RSC Leb #2.
Thanks for sharing. Thereās so much variation in the Lebanese! Those Blue Hemp x RSC look totally different than the regular Blue Hemps I grew. Itās fascinating.
I donāt have a great picture from before flower, but hereās Blue Hemps (2 farthest left, and 1 in back, 2nd row). All had pretty narrow leaves. But the Black Lebs (the other ones that were flopped in this pic) had wider leaves.
2-8 oz from 1 gallon coco pots? Damnā¦thatās great! I just put 9 in 1 galls into my room, will veg them another week or so and flip. Iād be happy to get 2 from each but Iād definitely prefer 8 lol
How often do you have to water on average? I have a feeling Iām going to be doing ALOT of watering in the near futureā¦
Edit: Iāll also have about 12-14" of room for each, it looks like you donāt top them?
Yea, 14" would be about the same as me. I donāt top them. Iāve been flopping/supercropping them, like what @Mr.Sparkle does in his microgrows.
I actually think the plants like the smaller pots more, down to a certain size. It promotes more wet/dry cycles, which gives them more air.
My watering schedule goes something like ā
Transplant to 1 gal pots after 2ish weeks in small pots, feed once every 2-3 days at first.
After about a week of that, feed about every day.
Change lights to 12/12 flower.
After about a week of 1x per day, increase to 2x per day.
Another week after that, increase to 3x per day.
You still gotta start them off slow and work up to 3x per day, but it goes pretty quickly. I just pick up the pots every couple days just before lights off, and check if theyāre getting really light yet. If theyāre feeling pretty dry, you can increase the number of feeds.
All that ācanāt overwater cocoā talk is total bullshit. Donāt believe anyone who says that. Maybe it wonāt kill your plants, but they wonāt be happy.
I gotcha. Sounds like you have dialled in the perfect set up for your needs and more
3x per day?? Oh boyā¦what have I signed up for lol
I was watering my 2 gallon hempys every 3 days, so I was assuming these would be every 2 days or maybe 1 in the same space. I guess weāll see. Thanks for the info!
And ya Iām sure itās not hard to overwater coco, but itās also much easier to underwater too. Iāve been used to soil where I would wait for the dirt to pull away from the sides of the pot but thats too far with coco. Its a fine line.
well if youāre up for an auto water build, itās not too hard, and costs about $50 or so. I use a big 27 gallon tote, aquarium pump, a few PVC parts and a distributor that has 8 lines. Then you just put it on a cycle timer and set a schedule.
Only problem is that Iām bored all week with nothing to do! Something something watching grass growā¦
Believe me Iām already researching just that lol. Donāt want to be chained to my plants all summer!
lmao!!! Iād like to experience some of that before deciding against itā¦ I might just like that.
Dude the cherry Queen sounds right up my alley if you have any of those seeds left I would love to trade a few for a few just to try to get a female looking for a keeper indica could help with my pain just keep me in mind if you can I would definitely appreciate it dude thanks for taking your time out with show us and post about it beautiful pictures
One more question, do you use the chunky coco ācroutonsā, straight coco, or a mix? Iāve been loving a mix with the chunks but made a point not to add them to this batch of 1 galls in the hope that they wonāt be so overly thirsty in these smaller pots.
Iāve been using the CocoBliss blocks that are available on Amazon. Itās not the chunky variety, or even very coarse. It holds more water than coarser stuff, but I mix about 20-30% perlite into it. I was using it 100%, but mid-flower, the roots would get too dense and cause drainage/aeration issues. Iād imagine that your mix with the chunks do a similar thing. In such small pots though, itās probably easier to get the perlite mixed well due to it being smaller pieces.