Id be curious to see a side-by-side (scientific analysis) with periodic full-plant analysis by LC-MS and ICP analysis to see what’s going on in the plant to see if there is actually a difference. I think if you had your compounds chelated, or chelating agents readily available, there isn’t going to be any difference between soil that has natural chelation occur, and a synthetic source… The only thing I could see that varies would be the media and update of nutrients, but I can’t say that with any scientific accuracy. As for Org v Salt, chemically, there is no difference (NaCl is NaCl).
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Give me a definition for what best means and I’ll will not likely agree.
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I don’t know man. I guess when I think organic I think of the word clean.
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Synthetic sterile environments are clean
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Ah but I don’t care if something is clean, as much as if it’s simple. We already have a different definition of best.
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Ok I have a bottle of chemical nutes and a tub of organic amendments. Gonna throw them both in the ring to battle it out right now, place your bets!! 
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I love to watch the back and forth in this topic but I firmly believe neither are the best for various reasons.
Use whatever you do best with
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Yes sir we do. I’m backing out of this conversation now!
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I wouldn’t consider decomposed material juice as clean
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Lol. Yep. Dirty is good
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see how these threads go on forever
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Yes sir. I understand now
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Hmm, I think you can have a preference for what you like best and not be an unhappy fool.
That’s not to say that I think there is one singular best for everyone. Maybe, that’s more along the lines of what you are saying.
People seem to get really agitated by differences of opinion. This threads a touchy one, but I think there is valuable information amidst the clutter. It was started as a question about what we thought and what our opinions are. Of course there is going to be differences of opinion, usually that’s a good thing! If people don’t want to be a part of a discussion that involves peoples opinions; umm, I believe they do have that option also.
Lol, idk; not meaning to direct all of this specifically at you @lefthandseeds, just the first part about besties.
(I get real happy when I get to sample some of my fav herbs personally)
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That’s exactly what I’m trying to say. 
In the social media age, people tend to discount/distrust their own experience in favor of someone else’s. But I’d wager that in almost every case, people have such different needs, skills and values that this one-size-fits-all idea is pure fiction.
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My two cents. Whatever works best for you. Be like burger king and have it your way.
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If all salt molecules are the same (as a food for plants) no matter the source or concentration level, why does hydroponic and Industrial farmed, heavily fertilized foods, taste nothing like the natural local small farm grown counterparts? What accounts for the difference? Shouldn’t they all taste the same if your theory was true.
And why does heavily processed iodized “pure” salt taste and look nothing like all-natural rock salt or Himalayan pink salt? Do things stay the same once they are processed or do they change.
I run cheap salts. My shit turns out pretty damn good imo. Especially for some midz.
All the trace minerals. Himalayan pink salt is pink from minerals, black salt, red salt, gray fleur de Mal, etc. None of them are pure NaCl.
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Right, so these would make it different, no?
My point is that processing and synthesizing things from chemical constituents actually is not the same exact thing as the natural whole unprocessed raw material. You dig?
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It is when the microbes break it down. Exact same. Plants can only take up nutrients in ionic form. Whatever amendments are put in the soil by the time they get into the plant they are the exact same chemically as fertilizer salts, it’s just the process to get there is different. Nothing wrong with either, just politics/personal choice. The microbes are still “processing and synthesizing” as you put it.
Also the reason “farmers market” stuff tastes better is because it is actually picked when it is was ripe rather than “ripened” while shipping which isn’t the same. Even “vine ripened” tomatoes are just picked green on the vine and they ripen “on the vine” during shipping. Sneaky marketing/wording. I’ve grown tomatoes with salts in my backyard and they were awesome.
I personally don’t think organic farming is going to save the world. If all agriculture switched overnight to organic amendments there wouldn’t be enough of karanja/crab/whatever meal left to even grow anything. Not to mention some of the damage that mass harvest of some of these products could do. I don’t know how shipping tons of different products from a ton of different places around the world is going to save anything.
There’s nothing wrong with growing organic if you want to but personally the whole holier than thou attitude I find a good chunk of growers have is pretty annoying and it’s really hard to have an actual discussion without feelings/politics getting in the way.
It’s really easy to search info online in such a way that you are just reinforcing what you already believe. I’m always open to new info and can always change my mind when I’m wrong but so far I’m not really convinced of the hype. I want to grow the best possible product for the least amount of money with the least amount of effort.
I’d argue that light intensity, co2 level and temperature have more of a beneficial effect on plant growth than what type of nutrients you use. No to mention amending soil with dust from 5 different places all around the world hardly seems like natural soil that cannabis would ever encounter in nature.
EDIT: damn reply 500 already
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