Right here!
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LOL I was about to reply that @Pigeonman seems to really enjoy Queen Mother 
That Oacacan x Purple Satellite is probably a good “starter” sativa too. Sounds really nice to me anyway.
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I vote Ethiopian and Durban!
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Voting to see how the Durban expresses
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I would agree with Mr. Pigeonman. Gerry talked me into this one when I made a purchase with him and said it one of his favorites and he recommended it highly. Queen Mother has my vote.
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Agree with potpotpot. The death sativa and destroyer are probably the best crosses. If you want a lone sativa genetic, hands down Panama is your best bet outta those. With there pack you can get all the phenos with that reg Panama since it’s not Panama red seeds. There’s green pheno, lemon pheno and red pheno with mixed phenos of course.
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Not at all the story with Dubai and Charlie from CBG. I know Dubi pretty well. They worked together for a long time and they decided to share there genetics with each other. They shared Panama mainly to breed it to the best it can be. The older Panama was more tropical. That’s Charlies work because Ace got there’s from Charlie a very long time ago. Which is now Panama goddess.
Charlie released a long of different strains like Dubi. Charlie is no longer posting for one he got tired of online. He is also older than Dubi. Dubi is more in his prime right now is all.
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Any strain that you see CBG and Ace seeds both have are the same parents from both companies. They shared strains. CBG has earlier pheno types. Charlie never went above a F3 for older generations. Dubi wants to stabilize genetics with keeping the old school genetics the same with better terms, smell and bud production. Just depends if you want the earlier generations which are more tropical. Some do have different parents now as Dubi and Charlie both lost old parents. Hard to keep them around forever.
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Thank you, this is good to know.
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Because i prefer the “less worked”, “purer” sativas.
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I’m Dr.King over at Icmag. Dubi is available to talk anytime.
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555! Welcome to OG scotty! Since you are Doobi’s boy, it makes sense you will come here to defend him.
This thread is about Colorado Sativas tho…but maybe now Doobi will finally update the Bangi Haze listing on their catalogue to reflect the real genetic lineage.
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Very enticing, looks delicious!
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Definitely grow out the ACE’s Panama if you want one of the most indica leaning Panama’s in the market.
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Love it 
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Is that so? Seedfinder has PCK in there, but we know that’s basically like the wiki of genetics and is not always 100%.
Why don’t we reference a post from the maestro himself:
How come there’s no mention of the dutch genetics in the initial post introducing the genetics on that thread or on their official catalogue offering description?
The Panama should be fully Sativa, I did grow it out and was surprised to find very dense flower that matured quickly. I would expect the opposite from pure sativa landrace that is allegedly long time flowering when pure. It’s not like i’m alone in my findings, many others here have tried ACE’s Panama and have seen how * cough * … “stabilized” the line is. With ~80% relative humidity year round and an average altitude of only 1,100 ft in situ, the flower structure should not be as tight. Not to say you can’t find anything worthwhile / or/ interesting, potent, etc.
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Seedfinder, seems right.
Dubi clears it up in a podcast also and online.
The Panama I grew from CBG which was top notch Sativa if I may say so. I’ve grown 20 plus sativas. Green haze, Thai, A5 haze, old times haze and Malawi just to name a few. Ace seeds Panama is just more generations so less of a chance to get a rare sativa. Almost all Sativas have NL in them somewhat. The growers in other countries say even the most far gardens still get pollen and aren’t like they use to be gen wise.
Here Dubi and member talk about the Panama line from CBG. The Panama breeder pack I have is from 15 years ago so it’s not the Goddess line. I’ll have to compare the F6’s to the new F10’s in a little bit then to the CBG one.
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