Doc D Chocolate Blitz; Freeborn Yesca x Jaro f3; Relic/Professor P/Dynasty Grapefruit f3; and (1) Bodhi Hasplant D

[minitiger]

@HorseBadorites

Dang, I’d be 116…

I didn’t wanna make a,”And you’re even older than me!” comment, but… haha.

@HorseBadorites

Hope you grow that one soon.

I’ll plant some the next time I start some new seeds. Of the 20 I planted 13 days ago, only one of the Zaps didn’t sprout. I randomly replaced it with a Ghost of Lee Roy seed from Rare Dankness and that one didn’t sprout, either. I thought about replacing that one with one Oaxacan/88G seed, but I wanna grow at least three females at the same time, so instead I started soaking two Rug Burn OG seeds last night. Totally different, I know haha.

This grow is gonna be kind of different than my usual ones, because I’m planning on just starting new seeds as the current plants begin showing sex. Usually I just remove the males and let one grow finish (or get close to finishing) before I plant some new stuff, but I got a really late start this round. Plus, I don’t wanna be flowering in July and August anymore, so I’m gonna try and squeeze as much shit in between now and like July 15 as I can.

Should be fun! Haha…

@HorseBadorites

I got a pack

As a freebie? What’d you buy to get it?

@HorseBadorites

In '72, Oaxacan was one of the first non-brick weeds I toked

I mean, I’ve read good things… haha. I think there’s supposed to be some Oaxacan in that Mexican Death Sativa and I grew (and really enjoyed) that MDS/Dragon Energy cross of Doc D’s a while back. I’m definitely looking forward to the Bodhi cross. If nothing else and considering those genetics, I feel like those plants are gonna be all kinds of hybrid vigored-out.

[HolyAngel]

Ooh I hadn’t seen that potcast get released! Will check that out soon. I have some work based on yosammy’s cuts. I wanna say it’s the same cuts he refused to send nevil for some reason

@iamyou_youareme

lot of times the names just get attached from previous cultivars or parents,

This is definitely the case. Need notes on selection from some of these guys to go along with their names.

[minitiger]

@iamyou_youareme

I think a lot of times the names just get attached from previous cultivars or parents

Yeah, I think so, too. And honestly, I’d prefer that breeders do that instead of naming it something that has nothing to do with the genetics/lineage. I miss the days when I could just look at a strain name and have a pretty good idea of what the parent plants were haha.

[minitiger]

@HolyAngel

Need notes on selection from some of these guys to go along with their names.

Totally. It really irritates me how barely anybody does that anymore, almost as if they’re “above” writing about the process or even offering up any thoughts at all about the crosses these breeders are making.

[HolyAngel]

Right? Especially if you’re picking out cuts that don’t reflect the name of the strain at all.

[minitiger]

That’s kind of one of the reasons I like meangene, is that he still writes pretty detailed stuff about his crosses. I mean, personally, I really like growing weed and then writing about it (in case y’all couldn’t tell haha); I feel like if I was a breeder, I’d still enjoy writing about the crosses I was making. Whenever I see a new release and all it says is what the parent plants are… I dunno. It feels passionless to me haha, just like,”Here! Okay?!? Here’s another cross!”

[HorseBadorites]

@minitiger

@HorseBadorites

I got a pack

As a freebie? What’d you buy to get it?

Blueberry Hashplant and finally got some Hollyweed… the V2. I even bore myself sometimes, lol, but B’s hashplant really works for me!

@minitiger

@HorseBadorites

In '72, Oaxacan was one of the first non-brick weeds I toked

I mean, I’ve read good things… haha.

There was no such thing as couchlock when I was a yute … it was all get up and go stuff. I could use some of that again, lol!

[minitiger]

@HorseBadorites

Blueberry Hashplant and finally got some Hollyweed… the V2. I even bore myself sometimes

Why are those boring? Haha. I’ve got a pack of that Hollyweed, the “original” version I guess. I’ve heard good things about it, but since I only have one pack, I’ve been reluctant to plant any haha! I don’t know too much about that Blueberry Hashplant, but if you like it, who gives a shit?

@HorseBadorites

There was no such thing as couchlock when I was a yute … it was all get up and go stuff. I could use some of that again, lol!

Are you gonna plant those Oaxacan x 88G seeds any time soon? Once I know exactly how many females I have, I’ll plant some, unless I magically end up with like a 50/50 ratio from this first round of seeds.

I won’t be holding my breath, though haha…

[TopShelfTrees1]

@minitiger

Whenever I see a new release and all it says is what the parent plants are… I dunno. It feels passionless to me

My sentiments exactly. I miss Bodhis old reports so much! Honestly when it comes to newer breeders I always go for the ones with detailed descriptions over the strain lineages etc. I’m not sure why/when that fell by the wayside but god I wish it was still the norm. I love that meangene/freeborn still does this as well. Plus I really like his work and passion.

[HolyAngel]

@TopShelfTrees1

I’m not sure why/when that fell by the wayside

When pollen chucking became a thing

[TopShelfTrees1]

True that, cuz most have no clue anymore I wanted to start a seed company with my mentor for 10 years easy but the last few years has really made me question that. Even after all the work I put in as well as others. Sad but true

[minitiger]

Yesca x Jaro #5 smoke report:

This was the plant:

I forgot to get a picture of her with the stakes removed, but that’s probably because she didn’t flop all over the place like a few of the other plants, including the other Yesca x Jaro. She was pretty sturdy.

Also, those pics of the dried flower make her look a lot better than she does in person. She really doesn’t look all that impressive, but…

Smell: I got really excited the first time I opened a jar of this one and I continue to get excited whenever I smell the nugs. It’s a total Sour/OG smell, to the point where I’d say it’s probably the closest thing to Sour Diesel that I’ve smelled since I’ve smelled Sour Diesel. It’s kind of missing the “gas/skunky funk” element, but the sour nose is extremely prevalent. Lemonhead candy, lemon cleaner and just SOUR. There’s also a very noticeable “perfume/cologne” OG thing going on, although the sour smell is the first thing I notice. These nugs smell very, very good.

Taste: kind of the opposite of the smell, actually, where all I taste initially is the “floral/perfume/cologne” OG flavor, but that’s quickly followed by a bunch of sourness. Again, it’s kind of a Lemonheads candy-type flavor, but better. The flavor also lingers for quite a while. I don’t know that I’d call it “mouth-coating,” but I can still taste this one after I’ve brushed my teeth, which seems good to me haha. It also leaves that kind of sour “sensation” in my mouth for a long time after I’ve blazed it. I dunno if y’all know what I’m talking about, but it’s almost like it leaves my tongue feeling kind of “raw,” like I bit into a lemon or something. The flavor definitely evolves in my mouth for a while after smoking her, too, a la Sour Diesel.

High: the high on this one is a little more “up” than the other Yesca x Jaro, at least initially. It’s also not as strong as the #3 plant, but that’s okay; just means I have to smoke a little more, which, considering how good she tastes, is fine with me. The initial comeup isn’t super-racy or anything, but I have been aware of my heart beating a couple times (although not every time) after blazing her, but nothing panic-inducing or anything.

I’d say that this one is more of an “up then down” hybrid-type high, but not debilitating on either side of it. I’ve smoked it before bed and fallen asleep no problem, although not right away or anything. And during the day, she does make me a little lazy on the comedown, but not nearly as much as the #3 plant does.

Is it a “special” high? No, I don’t think so. It’s kind of just an,“Okay, I’m baked, now what?” smoke, but the flavor more than makes up for it. Seriously, this weed tastes so, so, SO good. I can see now what higherthought was talking about in his review of this cross for sure, definitely has some pretty noticeable Sour Diesel elements going on in the flavor. I may have to get back into these seeds a little sooner than I was planning and see if I can’t find some more stuff like this one.

And yes, I will take cuts haha.

[HorseBadorites]

@minitiger

Are you gonna plant those Oaxacan x 88G seeds any time soon?

Hay, I was waiting for you, and your smoke report! But honestly, probably not for a while… unless you rave about it. I just looked at my incomplete list of what I’ve got, and maybe if I was 20 I could get 1/2 way through it… and I’m not 20.

And,

@minitiger

Yesca x Jaro #5 smoke report

That was a nice one, too. I wish I had access to a weed sommelier’s smell box so I could understand all the nuances, much less the smells that hit you over the head… but then I’d probably be even more annoying!

I’ve been testing another SSDD plant for nerve pain relief… it’s pretty relieving, of nerve pain and mind… sorry for the blah:)

[HolyAngel]

@HorseBadorites

I’ve been testing another SSDD plant for nerve pain relief

Which one’s that? and by that I mean… pics!

[minitiger]

@HorseBadorites

Hay, I was waiting for you, and your smoke report!

Haha, okay. Hopefully the stuff I planted a couple weeks ago won’t take too too long to start showing. The last couple years, I feel like everything’s been taking sooooooo friggin’ long to show, sometimes I won’t even be sure until they’ve been flowering for a week haha. But once I know exactly how many females I end up with, I’ll plant some of those Oaxacan seeds. I’m excited about them for sure.

@HorseBadorites

maybe if I was 20 I could get 1/2 way through it… and I’m not 20.

Pssshhh, I know, dude. I definitely have more than I can grow in this lifetime. Pretty ridiculous, really. I’ve been thinking about throwing like half my stash into the freezer and just keeping the stuff that I plan on growing in the next ten years in the fridge. The only problem is I don’t know what all would be a candidate for a freeze and what wouldn’t haha…

@HorseBadorites

I’ve been testing another SSDD plant for nerve pain relief… it’s pretty relieving, of nerve pain and mind… sorry for the blah:)

Don’t apologize! I dunno why I always have to say this, but my threads are for rambling haha. Y’all can talk about whatever and if I have a problem with it, you’ll know haha.

That SSDD sounds good. I didn’t notice any pain killing aspects from the one I grew years ago, but I think I got a really weird freak outlier plant with that one.

[minitiger]

Giesel smoke report (I didn’t grow this):

Looks:

Smell: The first time I broke up a nug of this one, which was four nights ago, it instantly reminded me of Woody OG. I dunno if y’all remember that one, it was around like fifteen years back. It was definitely not a real OG, didn’t look like it, didn’t smell like it, although it did smell good. I never bought any, but an old friend of mine who ran a dispensary gave me a few nugs one time, years ago. This one smells a lot like that Woody.

It has a sorta maybe sour milk nose, along with a “dry wood” thing going on that I can’t put my finger on. It smells good. I’ve only been doing bong rips of this one, but I may roll a j of it so I can spend more time with it haha and figure out exactly what it is I’m smelling.

Taste: This one tastes pretty spicy to me, like a lot of the other stuff I’ve been blazing lately. At first I thought that it may be because I’ve been smoking the Giesel out of a (slightly) dirty bong that’s had other weed smoked out of it, but I got back into that Mother’s Milk two nights ago (more on that later), after trying the Giesel a few times and I didn’t notice any spicy flavors with the MM, so… Yeah, this one tastes spicy, but not like that one Yesca plant. This one is more of a “faraway spices” thing. It tastes good.

High: The grower of this one said that he and another OG member found the Giesel to be a good “nighttime”-type smoke, so the first time I blazed her was before I started getting ready for bed, before I got in the shower and stuff. After blazing it and during the shower routine, I actually thought I might have trouble falling asleep. I find this one to be much more “up” than they did.

Having said that, it’s not a racy high and, really, I dunno if “up” is the right way to describe it. I mean, when I think of “up” weed, I think of wanting to do stuff, of needing to do something, but this isn’t like that. It does seem pretty cerebral to me, though, and plenty functional. I fell asleep about an hour or so after smoking this one before bed that first time, but in general, I don’t think I’d consider this “bedtime weed.” Unless I was already tired, I guess haha.

It’s good weed. More “daytime” to me, though. Like I said, I’ll fall asleep if I smoke it at the end of the day (or I did the other night, anyway haha), but it doesn’t make me wanna take a nap if I smoke it earlier in the day. Is it GREAT weed? I dunno. I like it well enough, wouldn’t be unhappy if I’d have grown it.

One thing I’ve been thinking about lately is that I really miss weed that makes me feel giggly or goofy or smile-y or whatever. I feel like I haven’t smoked any weed like that at all since maybe those Bandaid Hazes I grew a while back. There may have been another thing or two that I’ve grown/smoked since those plants that made me feel like that, but if there were I can’t remember now what that might’ve been.

Re that Mother’s Milk #31: I got into that a couple times lately and the flavor’s definitely changed. It’s more like a (blonde?) hash flavor, tastes reeeeaallllyyyy good. The high is still extremely enjoyable, too, probably my favorite of the samples that were sent to me (that I’ve tried so far haha; still have like eight things to get into). It’s super-kicked back and relaxed, but totally functional, bordering on that “smile-y/goofy/etc” high, but not. Quite. There.

Maybe I just haven’t smoked enough of it… haha.

Anyway, yeah, I like that Giesel, I just don’t know if it’s super-AMAZING or whatever. It’s good, though.

[iamyou_youareme]

Nice write up man. I do find some sour notes in there as well, mostly savory spices and little funk, like you were saying. I guess I do find that one kind of mentally simulating too, but it has a hard crash for me, which I guess is what I’d consider more nighttime weed.

@minitiger

Anyway, yeah, I like that Giesel, I just don’t know if it’s super-AMAZING or whatever. It’s good, though.

It was interesting weed, I suppose, but not what I’d consider a true keeper… I’d bet there’s better plants to be found in the Wolfpack from bodhi, the Appy would probably be a nice pairing with those terps and bud structure. I don’t have it anymore, but did make a cross with the Giesel before tossing it…

It has been super interesting blowing through all these clones (I’m truly thankful to those who have shared with me), it’s given me a perspective that I didn’t have before. It’s cool to know where things come from, what things smell like, and how they grow and smoke… what people consider ‘keeper’ plants. But, it has also reenforced my belief that with cannabis, it’s a ‘choose your own adventure’ thing… pop seeds if that’s your jam, keep hunting for shit ( minitiger may find something he actually clones one day ), run hype clones if you like ‘em, there’s interesting stuff around every corner… try not to box yourself in.

[minitiger]

@iamyou_youareme

It was interesting weed, I suppose, but not what I’d consider a true keeper…

Yeah, I dunno if I’d consider it a keeper, either. I think it’d just depend on what I thought I’d be in the mood for for the next year or two haha. Like I said, I’ve really been missing those sorta “goofy” highs and the Giesel doesn’t affect me like that, so…

You know which one I reeeealllly liked? That Lavender Jack. My buddy finally came over today and we blazed that one first and both agreed that it was very good weed. I need to smoke it a few more times before I do a writeup, but I thought it was excellent.

@iamyou_youareme

I’d bet there’s better plants to be found in the Wolfpack from bodhi

I just remembered the other day that I have those f2’s that greenhighlander made (or was that nube?), not sure what made me think of them, but I really oughta plant some of those soon.

@iamyou_youareme

minitiger may find something he actually clones one day

Haha, I may take some cuts from the plants I have growing now, once they get a little bigger. I have a feeling they’re gonna turn out really good.

@iamyou_youareme

It has been super interesting blowing through all these clones (I’m truly thankful to those who have shared with me), it’s given me a perspective that I didn’t have before.

I could see that. If I wasn’t so paranoid about bringing cuts in, I’d probably be more receptive to the idea of trying out some of that stuff. But I AM paranoid haha, so…

[iamyou_youareme]

@minitiger

Like I said, I’ve really been missing those sorta “goofy” highs and the Giesel doesn’t affect me like that, so…

Yup, I love those highs too, when you and a buddy can smoke of the same herb, share a couple joints, or whatever, then watch a movie and just crack up over stupid shit.

@minitiger

You know which one I reeeealllly liked? That Lavender Jack.

Meee too, man. That one is really good. The high is gentle and it’s not some rocket ride… for me it’s like a small amplifier of what I’m doing at the time… listening to music? Hell yeah… I’m picking up on stuff I’ve never heard in songs before, and just getting down in general. Doing some boring spreadsheet work, sure thing… I can smoke and still get work done… It doesn’t make feel super mentally high, but it just makes what I’m doing at the time better in some way? It is some what different than the straight Jack Herer high, I don’t feel as uplifted as I do with Jack, and don’t quite get the same intense mental focus and general happiness I do with Jack, but a mood lift for sure. It’s pretty good smelling too and good bag appeal.

@minitiger

aha, I may take some cuts from the plants I have growing now,

Do it!

@minitiger

I could see that. If I wasn’t so paranoid about bringing cuts in, I’d probably be more receptive to the idea of trying out some of that stuff

I hear ya, I’ve wrecked my grow bringing in clones. It’s a pain to keep the mothers alive. There’s many downsides to it. For me, the risk is worth it right now. I am, however, encouraging you to sacrifice one round of growing and take in some clones and see how it goes. You’ve dealt with shit like bugs before, growing from seeds… you don’t have much to lose if you don’t have mother stock to get infected and you’re starting fresh from safe seeds every time. Just sayin’, one round of running some of clones would be cool to see you grow… just to get your take on it.

[minitiger]

@iamyou_youareme

Meee too, man. That one is really good.

Oh, you did like the Lavender Jack? Did you post a smoke report yet? If you have, I’ve forgotten. Sorry… haha. I feel like I’ve read a couple people on OG who’ve tried it say that they didn’t think it was anything great, but maybe I’m thinking of something else.

Anyway, thanks for that one and good to know you dig it, too. I was thinking today,”Man, everything I’ve tried so far, my opinions are the opposite of everybody else’s; I CAN’T disagree with them on this one, too, can I???” haha. I mean, I wouldn’t lie, definitely woulda been like,”Y’all are wrong, this Lavender Jack is very good weed,” haha, but still…

@iamyou_youareme

It’s pretty good smelling

Yeah, I dunno if it’s because it’s been sitting in that container in a freezer bag in a wine fridge for a couple months now or what haha, but it definitely seems to have a very even split of “classic Jack terps” (anise, fruitiness etc) and a pretty noticeable “lavender” thing going on, too. It smells really good. I forgot to make any mental notes re flavor today, but I’ll get back into it tomorrow when I’m done with the Uber Eats shit and figure it out haha.

@iamyou_youareme

Just sayin’, one round of running some of clones would be cool to see you grow… just to get your take on it.

It’s never gonna happen, dude haha. Or I dunno, I don’t wanna say,”Never,” but it’s highly unlikely. I will say, though, that of the samples I’ve tried so far, I’d totally grow the Blue Dream, the Mother’s Milk 31 and the Lavender Jack. The Blue Dream and the Lav Jack actually do strike me as being keepers. The Mother’s Milk, while maybe not reaching that rarified air haha, still seems pretty dang good. Good enough for a few grows, anyway.

I dunno how any of those cuts you grew yielded, but I get the impression that a lot of these growers and breeders really factor in yields when they determine what’s a keeper and what isn’t. It’s like,”Okay, the smoke on this plant is only 70% as good as the smoke on this other plant, but she yielded twice as much, so that’s the keeper.” Which is fine, I guess, but yields don’t really matter to me, so…

Anyway, yeah, I don’t know why that thought just popped into my head, but I have gotten that impression over the years. And yields probably were more important when shit was illegal and you kind of had to “maximize” every grow, I get that, but I don’t think it’s all that important now. I’d rather have a pound of incredible weed than three pounds of “pretty good, but she yielded amazing” stuff.