Dang sorry to hear about the mites, little bastards. Glad to see you got a least one tough gal left though, she’s looking really nice!
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The Last One Standing, grow, grow grow like the wind
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Bumping the thread, but only because THCV is making a splash in the news: THCV Increases Energy And Motivation Without Marijuana’s ‘Munchies’ Effect, Double-Blind Study Finds?
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With 4 solid months of a Cure behind it, Your Thai plant has become the Stinkiest Bud in the Bin.
This stretch of Cure-time has Changed the Impact, changed the Smell and definitely moved it into the way I like to start my days…
Definite Citrus fragrance and I cannot deny catching a bit of Lemon Pledge if I may.
Great work @SativaKid, I’m really impressed.
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Syrian V is supposedly High in THCV , its a hoku genetics strain, and their are others too hoku has that are THCV cultivars
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i never posted these pics of her in flower…she probably could have gone another week or two,but the cold got her
Not the strongest smoke,but i really like it…i don’t know if it’s a placebo effect going on,but it feels sort of “different”,i’m wondering if it’s the THCV influence in there…Well,anyway,thanks again @deeez99 i was very happy to grow it!
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Awesome @killabud! Looks like you did a great job with her. She’s definitely got that huge Christmas tree structure with those bottom branches reaching way out there. I would agree with your smoke description as well, not terribly strong but different. I call it my focus weed.
I do have some F2 seeds if anyone else wanted to try them out. The F2 was a cross between the #8 female and the #4 male as shown in the TLC test.
I also have a few F2 seeds from crossing the #2 female and #1 male to include the CBD in the mix.
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@deeez99 id love to test out some of your F2s
I’m loving the structure of your plants…very nice looking.
I just also picked up some of Hokus Syrian V specifically for the thcv.
I’m leaning towards these super plants… because I went to a neurologist last week. Too many head injuries when I was young… I’ve been having weird seizures more and more lately, and high potency THC strains are making me black out.
So… I’m going back to high CBD (and maybe THC V will help too) low potency strains from now on 
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Hey @firehead absolutely! I’m so sorry to hear about the seizures. I’d love to hear your firsthand experience when you get to growing and consuming any of the v strains to see if they help any.
PM an address and I’ll get a package made up and sent early next week.
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I’d be interested in F2 of the #8 fem and #4 male if shipping to Europe is an option. I recently started doing TLC too so I could also run a test of it. @deeez99
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This is something I’d like to look into. Thanks for the interesting take on the origins of THC-V types. I’ve read a lot of the THC-V containing types supposedly come from Africa and I’ve read that Bantu in Africa often herd and otherwise raise cattle. Many blessings and much love
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What THC-V percentage of a flower would be considered “high” today?
Any percentage, basically. Most strains do not have THC-V . The ones that do have it are usually under 5% THC-V.
I found this Men’s Health article [link] that has info from a doctor who studies THC-V. The article itself is paywalled, but I was able to retrieve some info by inspecting the page and reading the body of the HTML code. (FYI - Full text for this article is available this way, works on some paywalled sites but not all.)
From the article:
“The most common varieties include sativa landraces from China, India, Nepal. The highest concentrations of THCV can be found in varieties from southern and western Africa.”
These include:
- Doug’s Varin: 3-5%
- Pink Boost Goddess: 4%
- Pineapple Purps: 4%
- AC/DC: 0.5%-1%
- Durban Poison: 3-5%
- Jack the Ripper: 5%
Hope this helps. Note that the list of “high THC-V strains” from the article includes AC/DC at 0.5% to 1% THC-V. So this shows that strains with even a small % are still considered “high” in comparison to most other strains.
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I have been running the clone only Bruce Banner #3 for the better part of the past decade. She has what I’d consider a bit of THC-V at .2% of a 28.8% cannabinoid total. She is also unique in that she has a considerable amount of the terpene Linalool in her terpene profile at .43%. She has stood out in my medicinal use over the the years and I have always considered those two factors to be likely the reason why.
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when i pasted the source code to a word doc to take the text out it was 112 pages of shit for a 2 page article. thanx for that tip to avoid a paywall. i hate them with a passion. needs formatted though, i have to work today or i would do it. full text of the article in case anyone wants to read it:
"Cannabis culture has been having a moment or more for the last few years, and between CBD, CBG and traditional marijuana, a lot of people are curious about all their differences and what potential health benefits they may reap from each one. One of the latest trends getting a lot of buzz, so to speak, is TCHV, a minor cannabinoid that supposedly provides psychoactive effects.THCV is a cannabinoid chemical found in cannabis that’s slightly similar to THC, according to Jordan Tishler, M.D., a cannabis therapeutics specialist, instructor of internal medicine at Harvard Medical School, president of the Association of Cannabinoid Specialists, and CEO/CMO at inhaleMD. THCV has some structural elements that are different, which contribute to different effects. According to Jay Denniston, chief scientist at BellRock Brands, THCV is a unique cannabinoid that has potential therapeutic benefits for both appetite control and to provide a focused, energetic sense of euphoria. “At high doses, it acts as a CB1receptor agonist, like THC, producing a psychoactive effect described as uplifting, focused, and energetic,” he explains. “At lower doses, it acts as a CB1 antagonist, prevents THC from binding to the CB1receptor, reduces psychoactivity, and increases appetite control by potentially increasing insulin sensitivity.”Based on the limited research out there, however, Dr. Tishler recommends proceeding with caution.“Studies on THCV have mostly been in rats, not humans, [so] there is not sufficient human data to recommend using it,” he says. Here’s what you should know about this latest trend in the weed industry.What does taking THCV feel like, or what should it feel like?THCV has 2 distinct therapeutic benefits: appetite control and mental clarity and focus, Denniston says. “With doses associated with high ratios of THCV:THC, because THCV also binds to the same CB1 receptor as THC, it also can produce a psychoactive effect described as energetic, euphoric, uplifting, clear-headed, focused, with boosted creativity and motivation,” he explains. “The effect onset time is faster, but since THCV does not bind as strongly as THC at the CB1receptor site, it has a shorter duration of effect.”Which weed strains contain the most THCV? According to Denniston, many of the cannabis varieties that contain higher levels of THCV are sativa-leaning. “The most common varieties include sativa landraces from China, India, Nepal,” he says. “The highest concentrations of THCV can be found in varieties from southern and western Africa.”These include: Doug’s Varin: 3-5% Pink Boost Goddess: 4%Pineapple Purps: 4%AC/DC: 0.5%-1%Durban Poison: 3-5%Jack the Ripper: 5%However, while there are some strains that have more THCV than others (such as Durban Poison), no strain has enough THCV to be meaningfully compared to the rat studies, Dr. Tishler says.“Additionally, most THCV products use THCV that is manufactured from CBD from hemp, not derived from cannabis directly,” he says. “This is important, as we’ve discovered that the chemistry involved is complicated and many products have impurities from the manufacturing process that the manufacturers aren’t testing for (and therefore aren’t even aware of).”Can THCV get you high? According to Dr. Tishler, it’s been stated, but not studied, that THCV leads to a more hallucinogenic experience.“Like THC, THCV can be psychoactive when taken in high doses,” Denniston adds. “THCV produces a faster-acting, more-focused and stimulating sense of euphoria that lasts for a shorter period when compared to THC. The high associated with its psychoactivity is commonly described similarly to sativa varieties, as focused, energetic, and motivating.” What are some potential side effects of THCV? Based on rat data, low doses may lead to some appetite suppression and a better response to insulin, Dr. Tishler says. “For these reasons, many have been touting THCV as a diet aid or a treatment for diabetes or obesity,” he says. “ [But] none of this has been borne out in humans and should not be used in this manner at this time.” Like THC and other cannabinoids, THCV also has anti-inflammatory, anti-anxiety, neurogenesis, and antioxidant properties, adds Denniston. Because of its binding ability to both the CB1 and CB2receptors in the body’s endocannabinoid system, THCV could also reduce muscular spasms associated with Parkinson’s disease, Alzheimer’s disease and ALS.“[Additionally], with the activity on the cannabinoid receptors located within the skeletal endocannabinoid system, THCV could slow some forms of bone loss and may promote cellular growth,” he says.The bottom line: While THCV shows promise, both Denniston and Dr. Tishler agree more research is needed. And dosing is a gamble. “Since little research has been done on human dosing models, the effective dose has not been determined,” Denniston says. “Each consumer needs to evaluate the effectiveness of THCV for their own specific needs.” "
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Wow!!! It’s very interesting. I’m from Argentina. Hoy can I get this kind of genetic???
Thanks a lot!!!
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Hey now Anybody want to share THCV seeds or Durban Poison IBl , Doug’s Varin …be awhile. if you so please. Thanks…outdoors tropical…
@deeez99. .
OVERGROW THW WORLD…
- Jack the Ripper: 5%
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Everything You Need to Know About THCV, the So-Called ‘Diet Weed’
Expect it to be a while before it’s recommended for anything.
By Emilia BentonPublished: Apr 29, 2022 5:38 PM EDT
Cannabis culture has been having a moment or more for the last few years, and between CBD, CBG and traditional marijuana, a lot of people are curious about all their differences and what potential health benefits they may reap from each one. One of the latest trends getting a lot of buzz, so to speak, is TCHV, a minor cannabinoid that supposedly provides psychoactive effects.
THCV is a cannabinoid chemical found in cannabis that’s slightly similar to THC, according to Jordan Tishler, M.D., a cannabis therapeutics specialist, instructor of internal medicine at Harvard Medical School, president of the Association of Cannabinoid Specialists, and CEO/CMO at inhaleMD. THCV has some structural elements that are different, which contribute to different effects.
According to Jay Denniston, chief scientist at BellRock Brands, THCV is a unique cannabinoid that has potential therapeutic benefits for both appetite control and to provide a focused, energetic sense of euphoria.
“At high doses, it acts as a CB1receptor agonist, like THC, producing a psychoactive effect described as uplifting, focused, and energetic,” he explains. “At lower doses, it acts as a CB1 antagonist, prevents THC from binding to the CB1receptor, reduces psychoactivity, and increases appetite control by potentially increasing insulin sensitivity.”
Based on the limited research out there, however, Dr. Tishler recommends proceeding with caution.
“Studies on THCV have mostly been in rats, not humans, [so] there is not sufficient human data to recommend using it,” he says.
Here’s what you should know about this latest trend in the weed industry.
What does taking THCV feel like, or what should it feel like?
THCV has 2 distinct therapeutic benefits: appetite control and mental clarity and focus, Denniston says.
“With doses associated with high ratios of THCV:THC, because THCV also binds to the same CB1 receptor as THC, it also can produce a psychoactive effect described as energetic, euphoric, uplifting, clear-headed, focused, with boosted creativity and motivation,” he explains. “The effect onset time is faster, but since THCV does not bind as strongly as THC at the CB1receptor site, it has a shorter duration of effect.”
Which weed strains contain the most THCV?
According to Denniston, many of the cannabis varieties that contain higher levels of THCV are sativa-leaning.
“The most common varieties include sativa landraces from China, India, Nepal,” he says. “The highest concentrations of THCV can be found in varieties from southern and western Africa.”
These include:
- Doug’s Varin: 3-5%
- Pink Boost Goddess: 4%
- Pineapple Purps: 4%
- AC/DC: 0.5%-1%
- Durban Poison: 3-5%
- Jack the Ripper: 5%
However, while there are some strains that have more THCV than others (such as Durban Poison), no strain has enough THCV to be meaningfully compared to the rat studies, Dr. Tishler says.
“Additionally, most THCV products use THCV that is manufactured from CBD from hemp, not derived from cannabis directly,” he says. “This is important, as we’ve discovered that the chemistry involved is complicated and many products have impurities from the manufacturing process that the manufacturers aren’t testing for (and therefore aren’t even aware of).”
Can THCV get you high?
According to Dr. Tishler, it’s been stated, but not studied, that THCV leads to a more hallucinogenic experience.
“Like THC, THCV can be psychoactive when taken in high doses,” Denniston adds. “THCV produces a faster-acting, more-focused and stimulating sense of euphoria that lasts for a shorter period when compared to THC. The high associated with its psychoactivity is commonly described similarly to sativa varieties, as focused, energetic, and motivating.”
What are some potential side effects of THCV?
Based on rat data, low doses may lead to some appetite suppression and a better response to insulin, Dr. Tishler says.
“For these reasons, many have been touting THCV as a diet aid or a treatment for diabetes or obesity,” he says. “ [But] none of this has been borne out in humans and should not be used in this manner at this time.”
Like THC and other cannabinoids, THCV also has anti-inflammatory, anti-anxiety, neurogenesis, and antioxidant properties, adds Denniston. Because of its binding ability to both the CB1 and CB2receptors in the body’s endocannabinoid system, THCV could also reduce muscular spasms associated with Parkinson’s disease, Alzheimer’s disease and ALS.
“[Additionally], with the activity on the cannabinoid receptors located within the skeletal endocannabinoid system, THCV could slow some forms of bone loss and may promote cellular growth,” he says.
The bottom line: While THCV shows promise, both Denniston and Dr. Tishler agree more research is needed. And dosing is a gamble. “Since little research has been done on human dosing models, the effective dose has not been determined,” Denniston says. “Each consumer needs to evaluate the effectiveness of THCV for their own specific needs.”
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