This is a year old thread bro. But someone might get back to you. I know there is alot of interest in in the subject. You might have better luck on another thread.
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Dont know if it was posted in here yet or not, but Doc D is giving 3 fem Vietnam Black beans with an order of 120.
I messaged him and he said he can also make my a straight VB pack to sell if I wanted. I think it was about 100 bucks for 7 or something. I dont remember. But I am considering it.
Vietnam Black (164 Kiona Cut)
Is how they are listed.
I checked out Kiona seeds on insta and they have a lot of nice genetics as well. You may want to check them out for some asian and Vietnamese strains and crosses. I havnt contacted them yet, but their buds are delicious looking 
Hope that helps a little.
Stay Happy 
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I got some Vietnamese landrace seeds gifted to me a week ago. Anyone grown these out yet?
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Where are they from ?
Im trying to find some as I speak 
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Got them from Darkillusion on the The ongoing indoor grow thread last Friday.
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I know Kiona was supplied by Zamalito. And Zam selected that 164 cut from a large batch of seeds.
I met both Zam and the guy who runs Kiona - very cool people.
These days, Zam is running an op around Kentucky area
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I stumbled into these today
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should be the exact same line as Hoabac - Reeferman.
it seems to me referman gives the same strain multiple names, also his descriptions vary, per example his cambodian has multiple stories, one he said he got it from a market, once he got it from one place, onther time he mentioned another placeā¦ anyway i might be mistackenā¦
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Yeah those are hoya bac. Pitty reefer man never sold it pure, in pure form it looks very sativa and very beautiful.
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who said its unpure? In the post where he showed it before his Selection , with thin buds, he said himselve that the sold version is just a selection of it. did he tell you something else?
i once trusted his word more or less, dunno, probably im wrong to do that.
honestly there are no Grounds for believing someone really without reason, you never know.
i just trust him a bit more because he was releasing lottsa Sativas, even pure ones, and many that he labelled clearly in description as outcrosses and named the parentsā¦i dont know definitly for shure notā¦ who knowsā¦
It performs pretty weak with low light scenarios, worse than Vietblack per exampleā¦ leads me also to think its pureā¦ smells not really very sweetā¦
i cold rather imagine that it catched hybrid pollen at the source, i said ratherā¦ not from reeferman.
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someone analysed it crossed to vietblack and this had cbd in it.
so, there is atleast grounds to think its outcrossed, why? because i heard thatmany chineese strains were analysed and had no cbd in it. I didnt check this statment tho. i mean if chinese has zero cbd already, then ā¦
anyway, the effect was quiet trippy for me, atleast the one time i smoked it. queit nice. a bit too stressy like modern collected strains sometimes can be.
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Honestly Im not sure if anyone got seeds from the original release of Hoa bac to germinate
Those may be from the most recent oldschool associates āreeferman geneticsā
Hey, couldnt get much more confusing if they tried, right?
Its a crapshoot out here folks! 
Yeah, hoabac is silverleaf is mindfuck etc
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just lately somebody on icmag showed seeds that he said were from āthe REAL reefermanā. Fat leaves aswell bytheway.
they couldnt have looked more similar to oldschoolba wich i boughtā¦
also: reeferman , dave scott uploaded the unmistackingly special looking pheno of hoabac (veery beautiful, those white icecream sorbet looking hairs you see if you grow realdeal 70s SEAsian genetics / or SEAsian leaning hybrids you know).
i swear im sooo convinced this very particullar look i cant mistacke itā¦ i have this look to, mine looked identical, just the same, with an cyanblue hueā¦
imho too much talking and roundabout, let me think, 1 person that grew any of oldschoolbas hoabacā¦ Me,
imho, its just pointless to lay out my veeery lenghty research, (it feels like it, you keep speculating since the beginning of this seedcompany,ā¦ zero people have grown it other than me it feels like) and i leave you with a
ātrust meā. grown oldschoolbas hoabac, and find out its probably reefermans gear reproducedā¦
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@lefthandseeds have you ever got seeds from these guys? Are their genetics what they say they are? Thanks
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I have their Vietnamese strain but I havenāt run it yet. I think theyāre legit, just a bit expensive.
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Someone contacted me in PM and said heād be able to shoot me some VB. I have to go back and dig that up. I forgot what the circumstances were but they really talked in up, too. Iāll find it and find out what happened and where they got it.
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consider these banks for ā Authentic Genetics, Old school Genetics, James Bean Seeds, Swamieās - The Real Seed Company (have more if you want them)
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I saw a Viet black repro for sale last night. Iāll see if I can find the link for you.
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If the story I heard of Vietnam black is true, the cbd comes from the Afghan side.