hey there @Rurumo! i’m actually growing out fdm’s durban and cinderella mix right now. they’re in the last few weeks of flower and i expect to harvest them soon-ish. you can see them on my grow journal.
it is my very first grow and i’ve been super happy with the seeds from fleur du mal. they grew very easily and have given me little to no issues. my durban is the tallest plant in my tent right now even being in only 3gallons of soil.
i love that the breeder mixes which fdm has are so cheap. that was part of my decision on popping them as part of my first grow, as i wouldn’t be throwing $5-10 per seed down the drain if i lost any seeds due to inexperience.
i’m looking forward to providing a nice smoke report in a month or two.
if you check out @Dirt_Wizard i believe he’s got some gorgeous fdm plants that he’s grown recently.
I’ve considered several crossings of FDM breeding stock with ESB, but ultimately never spent much time on outcrossings, preferring to focus on preserving and improving the strain itself for future use. The ESB is such a beautiful expression of the late 70s- early 80s era sativa-dominant hybrid style, when otherwise pure tropical sativas were just “kissed” with some indica to tame them and bulk them up, that I’ve never wanted to mix more indica into her lines. But you never know!
The FDM Indiana Bubblegum is based on a selected US-derived clone dating from 1991 of Indiana Bubblegum, the pre-Dutch cultivar grown fairly widely across the US Midwest from at least 1979. It was definitely a seed line in it’s day, long before it was brought to Holland. Even Adam acknowledges that.
Quite a few stories but little verified on the origins and original genetics, but I’d classify it broadly as an American skunk strain, like Skunk #1, being composed of Colombian and Mexican sativas crossed lightly with an Afghani. Many credit Johnny Boone of Kentucky’s Cornbread Mafia with developing and popularizing the strain in the 1980s.
Adam and Simon and Tony (and Alan Dronkers later) all received a cut that they then bred to one of their undisclosed stable studs. FDM’s version is a backcross to the ‘91 clone using Serious’ Bubblegum male from 1998, then backcrossed to the clone mother again (bx2). We are currently testing a bx3 “cubed” accession that smells exactly like classic pink bubblegum i.e. “Bazooka Joe”. It is generally less indica leaning than the Dutch versions, but carries the indica fruitiness, bulked up bud structure, and early ripening, while retaining a lot of the sativa head and mold resistance. It’s a great balanced sat/indica in all the best ways.
Just ordered Bubblegum for next season. Stoked for 2023! I wouldn’t mind getting that Bx3 instead of the Bx2, I’m sure I’ll be a happy camper regardless. Bazooka Joe
I vascilated for days with carts that filled, then shrunk, then filled again and shrunk again. I’ve got a bad case of seed acquisition disorder, in active recovery. My wife would have seriously questioned my sanity had I pulled the trigger with the full cart You’ve got so many other tempting heirlooms, ESB, C99, ST #4.
Thanks for all you share, I really appreciate this thread and the effort you invest in your cultivars. The information you post regarding all of them is top-notch as well. Cheers!
Actually, Bushy always spoke about the Sensi White Label Bubblegum seed line of the mid-90s as the source for his Bubblegum. Makes sense as BOG’s Bubblegum hybrids always leaned strongly indica. The original Indiana landrace was much more balanced sat/indica. BOG Bubble would get wiped out by mold in most humid Midwest summers.
Adam says BOG got it from him in an interview where he talks about that one white widow male everyone was using back in the holland days I might be mistaken I’ll have to rewatch it now
Sourced from Nevil’s own freezer, circa 1988. I’ve been waiting for 20 years to do this preservation project. We are still winterizing and germ testing but should have some available for the intrepid few who would like to get there hands on an absolute foundational breeding strain that was nearly lost to the mists of time.
She’s a fat, greasy bear of an Afghani Kush, from when Kush meant “from the Hindu Kush”. Sire of Black Domina, Legends Ultimate and Maple Leaf Indicas. Powerful, full-on indica body stone, with an earthy sweet, rotten banana bouquet. Should be terrific for hash and pressing, and solid breeding stock.
Will also have an interesting Ortega cross that will highlight the great stone and terp profile in a more sativa -balanced hybrid. Stay tuned, or ask about them when you order. peace -b420
What was the difference between the Bubblegum from THSeeds and the indiana Cut were they Different or the same thing?Was it the same one that Adam saved from when he got his grow room robbed?
Hi @Baudelaire and thanks for all the work you have done for these strains. I am curious about the C99, when exactly did you nail down the pineapple pheno in seed form, I got some of them about a year ago, are these you speak of made after that? Also when do you plan to release the Bazooka Joe Bubblegum, I got my Bubblegum seeds same time a year ago, haven´t grown yet, but they are on the rota next grow round… All the best.
You’ve got so many other tempting heirlooms, ESB, C99, ST 
