Founded a new generation and showered again 
. Would like to chop tomorrow, do they still expand while drying the buds? Is it safe to vape if the number is minimal? Thanks for your help ā¦ 
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Iāve used lady bugs many times and ime their efficacy is minimal. Seemed more of a fire hazard as they crawl everywhere including the light fixtures and outlets. Maybe I wasnāt applying them correctly. I am surprised the neem and pyrethrin didnāt work. Good call on skipping the spinosad late in flower. 
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Bud washing will make for cleaner smoke get the B soda and Lemmon juice out and some bins
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Iāve been doing it this yearā¦ best thing ever!
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You mean after chopping, cleaning the buds in a bin with baking soda and lemon juice before hanging them to dry? Which proportion? Thanks for the advice ā¦
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Yup per 5 gallons of wash solution , five gallons of tepid water 1 cup of baking soda and 1 cup of Lemmon juice . Get water in bin dissolve baking soda in water Throw buds in water then throw in Lemmon juice , the effervescent action works like cleaning dentures in their solution take your bud branch in move it back and forth quickly in short jerky motions for 30-60 seconds allow to drip dry over water move to a second bin straight water for a rinse and then a final swish of straight water for a 2nd water only rinse . So one cleaning step and 2 rinses then hang dry. I used three wash basins filled 1/2 with with about 2.5 gallons each and cut my Lemmon juice and BS in1/2.
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Fortunately there are only two plants involved 
, thanks for the detailed information, someone should FAQ or wiki it, pretty useful ā¦ 
Curious if this effects the cannabiniod content of the plants? 
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Nope. THC is not water soluble. Doesnāt hurt them at all
@George I only use 1/2 cup of baking soda and the juice of 1 lemon
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I believe itās the components of many fruits and vegetable washes may be wrong though
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!/2 cup of each is correct amounts for 5 gallon buckets. āCleaningā bucket should be hot, dunk cold. As Meesh states, it will not hurt the Buds in any way, just will not.
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I leave spiderās in my room. They generally keep the fly population down
+ vaselineā¦ my new experiment for 
ant barrier.
This morning I had the thought to try rubbing the inside of a fresh scorpion pepper all over the bark near the base of the plant. 
The antās do not like that shit 
Not sure if it masks their trails or confuses their noses or burns themā¦donāt really care if it works. 
But since I only had one ripe chile I got some cayenne powder & vaseline at the discount store & made the funkiest, nastiest concoction I think Iāve ever made. I spread it around the trunk & main stems & support stakes & it seems to be an effective barrier but Iāll see in the morning-- these fuckers are almost nocturnal & avoid the direct sunlight. WTF. Shady bastards. 
And I dunno about this budwashing thingā¦ the stuff I did looks essentially ruined(hash time) compared to the slightly aphidy, unwashed stuff. Iāll confirm my suspicion in a week or so when I try smoking some. 
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Its the sharpness of the granules. I used borax but i mean sea salt or anything like that, it feels terrible to walk on for them and their feet and antennae are sensitive they will take one step and be like ok back to ant hill fuck this and bail.
The borax didnāt phase them. 20 mule team & all!
Even with moisture added(makes boric acid)ā¦
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If that vaseline experiment doesnāt work you can always use it for other purposes ā¦ 
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oh I read ya, but if weāre re enacting the slip and fall scenes in Home Alone I call being Daniel Stern āMarvā. I mean I don;t study ants or anything but tried lots of stuff and watched them attempt the borax, get weirded out and displeased, wiggle antennae at other ants, and all bail. It happened a few times the day I layed it down from different troops of ants. They are very smart they build ant hills that are bigger than one story building and all tunnels and rooms no matter the size are connected at perfect 45 degree angles that all ants must be on same page for to have max vent efficiency inside the hill across all levels.
But how do they all instinctively measure and build together perfectly at 45 no bevel no damn school thing protractor, just ant feet and ant brain. Crazy humans can barely get through crosswalks to other side across human traffic. Ow get outta da way Iām walkin heeeeyah!
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Thanks again, already done it and after watching the water left I donāt know if we should repeat this practice even with the healthy plants ā¦
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I thought the same thing when I washed because of PM. Itās not a bad idea for outdoor plants. Yuck
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Well, I can swear to you that was my last outdoor grow, donāt want those little bastards inside again 
. Was a total nonsense bringing it back at home, you cannot fight Mother Nature, another lesson learnt ā¦ 
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